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1 | How does this order of authority work? | Eph 1:20 | Morant61 | 83827 | ||
Greetings Ray! I would take just a little different approach on Eph. 1:20 and 22. Here is how I would translate them. "which He worked in Christ, having raised Him from the dead and having seated (Him) at His right in the heavens...and having put all things under His feet , He gave Him (to be) Head over all the Church." Here is why I differ a little. All of the verbs which I have translated as 'having...' in these two verses are Aorist, Active, Participles. They indicate action which took place prior to the action of the main verb or verbs. In these two verses, the only regular verbs are 'He worked' and 'He gave'. They are really the focus of the sentences. So, God worked in Christ and gave Christ to be the Head of the Church after He had already done the following things: 1) ...raised Him from the dead. 2) ...seated Him at His right. 3) ...put all thing under His feet. The only 'complaint' I would have with Dr. Green's translation is that it doesn't make it as clear that these three things took place prior to the 'working' and 'giving'. But, this simply reflects the 'art' of translation! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | How does this order of authority work? | Eph 1:20 | Ray | 84103 | ||
Hi Tim, I like your artistic translation. 1) I agree with your point and your translation of "having". I see the working of God in grace looking back in the passage to verse nine. I go with the NKJ for verses 9-11 looking at His grace which He lavished upon us. In all wisdom and insight... Ephesians 1:9, NKJ, "having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth--in Him. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will,..." All of this is according to the purpose of the One who works all things. 2) What would you say to the idea that this One gave Himself to be Head of all things to the church? Ephesians 1:22 From the heart, Ray |
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3 | How does this order of authority work? | Eph 1:20 | Morant61 | 84104 | ||
Greetings Ray! Thanks! :-) Concerning point 2, I don't see any way to translate v. 22 as 'himself'. The last clause says, '...and He gave Him (to be) Head over all the church.' 'Him' is in the accusative, so it can't be translated as Himself in this verse. Let me know if I have understood you correctly. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | How does this order of authority work? | Eph 1:20 | Ray | 84125 | ||
Hi Tim, Thank you. | ||||||