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1 | sharing our faith to unbelievers so hard | 1 Cor 1:18 | Jesusman | 199448 | ||
With out the overwhelming historical, scientific, and archeological evidence to support the Bible's claims, we might as well tell the unbelieving to believe in Santa Claus, Roudolph, and the Easter Bunny. On top of that, I point you to the Great Commission and ask you a similar question that you asked me. Who are we to speak for God? Why does God need our help in revealing himself? Apparently there is something we contribute when witnessing to an unbeliever because we are commanded to "Go" and "Teach". Now, in the sources your mentioned, it is a communication between Christians. But look at Paul's message on Mar's hill. Where does he begin? He begins with using a altar attributed to "An unknown god" as his starting point. He used a secular religious Icon to witness. In every instance of the Bible where a believer is witnessing, the Believer begins and often uses terms and phrases the person being witnessed to will understand. I am not saying we should shelve the Bible, and ignore God. I'm saying that those we witness to will need proof. Turning to history, science, archeology helps provide that proof. Look at many of the experiences in the Bible and what do you see? Proof being given. Pentacost? Everyone of different languages heard the message in their native language. The Jailor? An earthquake that freed the Apostles but they remained. Who are the ones speaking in those instances? Eyewitesses to the events of Jesus's life. They were proof in and of themselves. We don't have that luxury. 2000 years have passed, long enough for such things to be counted as myth. In the secular world, the Bible is little more than myth. What do you suggest that we do? Tell the unbelievers to have faith in what they think is a myth, and give them a book they might think of as no more credible than an edition of Snow White? How about we tell them that Jesus was a real person? That people other than the Biblical Writers told his story? How about we even go so far as point them in the direction where they can look at the proof for themselves? I have never said and will never say that we should take God out of the equasion. I am saying that we reinforce our claims with the proof and evidence that God has provided. We have this evidence. What is the huge sin in using it? Jesusman |
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2 | sharing our faith to unbelievers so hard | 1 Cor 1:18 | Hank | 199460 | ||
Dear Jesusman :: It happens but rarely, sir, that on Study Bible Forum I disagree with a statement with any more vigor than with yours which opens your Post 199448. It reads as follows: "Without the overwhelming historical, scientific and archeological evidence to support the Bible's claims, we might as well tell the unbelieving to believe in Santa Claus, Rudolph and the Easter Bunny." ....... Frankly, sir, this statement is not only unpersuadable, being corroborated neither by Scripture nor anything else, but it also appears strikingly atypical of your thinking insofar as I've been able to determine your convictions from reading your production on SBF. ...... Tell me, do you really believe God's word needs man's supplementation in order to deliver its message to the sinner? Does it in fact require these things you list, i.e., "overwhelming historical, scientific, and archeological evidence"? Just how "overwhelming" are these things anyway? Tell me why, if you can, must the Bible, the word of the living God, have these kinds of support to validate its claims? When the Spirit led Philip to join the chariot of the Ethopian eunuch in which he sat reading from the book of Isaiah, did Philip teach him science, history and archeology to convert the eunuch, or did he preach unto him Jesus? (See Acts 8:26-39). When the Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?", did they try to open the mind of the jailer with a series of long-winded dissertations on the "historical Jesus" or some sort of "scientific proof," or did they tell him to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ? (See Acts 16:25-34). ....... Must we supply the Bible with these supplements that you speak of lest it be reduced to nothing more than baseless tales having no more power or credulity than the fables of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny? No! No! No! A thousand times no! ...... Jesus said, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away" (Matt. 24:35). Oh, how wrong even to hint that the eternal, inerrant, plenary word of the Almighty God needs man's puny help in order to be effective in delivering its message to a fallen world! The word of God is eternal and absolutely true. The highest literary output of which man is capable is ephemeral and freighted with all manner of error. ....... The Bible is unlike any other book that has ever been written or that will ever be written. No other book in human history can make the following claim: "For the word of God is living and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart" (Hebrews 4:12). ...... It always grieves my soul to read on any page, be it on this Study Bible Forum or elsewhere, even the slightest hint or suggestion that the word of God needs man's help in any way to empower it to reach the heart of the unregenerate. This Forum has striven to present, promote, and encourage the highest view of Scripture possible, and it expects no less from its registrants. Sola Scriptura! --Hank | ||||||
3 | sharing our faith to unbelievers so hard | 1 Cor 1:18 | Jesusman | 199461 | ||
Fine .. I guess I am a false prophet I have tried hard to teach others to resist. Good bye. You won't see me on here again. | ||||||
4 | sharing our faith to unbelievers so hard | 1 Cor 1:18 | stjohn | 199462 | ||
Way to go Jman! Just like a man to take his ball and go home! Brother I pray that God gives you a new heart and you stand for the Word of God like a man of God should! | ||||||