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1 | sharing our faith to unbelievers so hard | 1 Cor 1:18 | DocTrinsograce | 199584 | ||
Dear Gunnie, You wrote, "Through these I developed faith." If you mean faith as the Scripture uses it, then it came directly from the Lord. Paul wrote, "So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ." (Romans 10:17 ESV) Any discipline whatsoever requires a vocabulary. God graciously provides the vocabulary along with the definitions. In Him, Doc |
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2 | sharing our faith to unbelievers so hard | 1 Cor 1:18 | Gunnie | 199585 | ||
Thanks Doc You answered in the same way that I was critical of. By quoting biblical text. I accept, now that I have 'faith', everything you write. However the point was that the words themselves have no meaning to someone who is not in the faith. The vocabulary used is fine, but try defining the words in a way 'outside of the bible', and much more in keeping with the youth who wil be the christian of tomorrow. My daughter, aged 22, has friends who come round to visit. They dont say Hello. How are you Mr Hope? the say 'Yo! s'up?' They talk of work and other people and say 'they were dissing me'' I told them to chill' which I had to ask for a meaning for and was met with vacant looks. My daughter says her friends boss was being 'disrespectful' and they told him to 'calm down'. Quote the bible to them and you will not get anywhere. You have to talk to them in a way they will understand. This is why I have the greatest respect for Youth Ministry. Tim Hughes wrote 'Here I am to Worship' a song which has the line 'I'll never know how much it cost to see my sin upon that cross' colleagues who have been unfortunate enough to be in my car whilst I have Hillsong on make no sense from this, but you and I do. Jeremiah 5:21'....who have ears but do not hear'(NIV) how can you hear the word of the Lord if you cannot understand it. |
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3 | sharing our faith to unbelievers so hard | 1 Cor 1:18 | jlhetrick | 199597 | ||
Dear Gunnie- You couldn't be more mistaken. I believe the most important thing that we adults must do before we ever attempt to be the teachers of our youth is to first understand Scripture ourselves. Doc quoted to you exactly what you seem to be not understanding based on your posts. That is, Romans 10:17. Faith doesn't come from hearing the current teen slang. I mean come on man. s'up wit dat line a thanken anyways. For reals man. I have a 22 year old too, as well as a 17 and 23 year old so "I'm feelin you on that". You write that "the words themselves (refering to Scripture) have no meaning to someone who is not in the faith" failing to acknowledge (after Doc gave it to you) that the ONLY possible way of receiving that faith is through the hearing of those words; that is, the word of God. Not the slang of any particular generations youth. First and foremost we NEVER attempt to "define the words in a way outside the bible". What would than mean anyway? Are you suggesting that the current time and cultural perspectives dictate the meaning of the words of Scripture? Of course not, and I hope that's not your meaning. You write, "quote the bible to them and you will not get anywhere". Your just totally and complete wrong sir/ma'am. I might add that Hillsong may produce music that is biblically acurate and doctrinally sound in many cases, but their lyrics are certainly not inspired so that argument has no relevence strictly speaking. You ask "how can you hear the word of the Lord if you cannot understnd it". 2Chronicels 1:10 would be an excellent place to start your study to answer that question. I would not argue that your intentions are less than honorable but this may be an example of Romans 10:2 I sincerely hope that you will consider these things honestly before continuing to teach others, perhaps especially the young ones. Sincerely and God bless, Jeff |
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