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1 | Why so blind? | 1 Cor 13:12 | GeorJoy | 91441 | ||
I know the answer is in scripture, but I can't put my finger on it. My questions are as follows; 1) Why do people who (appear) to be sincere twist the true meaning of scripture? If possible, I would prefer scriptural quotes as an answer, ie "KJV Mar 4:12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand," with limited paraphrases, devoid of OPINION. 2) Is the entire bible as a parable to some, or only portions that they choose not to accept? Or is it as is said in Ecc 3:1 "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven," to include understanding as well? George |
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2 | Why so blind? | 1 Cor 13:12 | John Reformed | 91442 | ||
1 Cor 13:12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known. "Why do people who (appear) to be sincere twist the true meaning of scripture?" Dear George, Have you ever held a sincere belief that later was revealed to you to be an error? I know I have (more times than I care to admit). I was raised Catholic, re-baptized a Nazarene, spoke in tongues as an Assembly of God and am now a Presbyterian who holds to the doctrines of grace. Each step along the way, I thought my doctrines were pure, only to have them turned upside down. Even today after 25 years of pilgramage, I am still being humbled by the Holy Spirit. (I can hear the cheers from many of my friends on the forum :-)) On the other hand there are wolves among the sheep as well! False prophets and teachers of down-right heresy. These unregenerate men are true enemies of the gospel. In either case,it is the responsibility of "true believers" to pray for discernment and for enlightenment; To speak the truth in love and to leave judgement in the hands of God. Your Thoughts? John |
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3 | Why so blind? | 1 Cor 13:12 | GeorJoy | 91453 | ||
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am of the impression that those of the Presbyterian faith do not believe in the speaking of toungs. Whether so or not, the trinity is the foundation. George |
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4 | Why so blind? | 1 Cor 13:12 | John Reformed | 91472 | ||
Your right George, Tongues was a doctrine I abandoned, once I was convinced that merely uttering meaningless syllables did not fit with the bible definition of "languages". In looking back, I always was somewhat uncomfortable with it. John |
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5 | Why so blind? | 1 Cor 13:12 | GeorJoy | 91539 | ||
As Paul said, I would rather you speak one word that the church understands than ten thousand that they do not. Toungs edify the individual, nothing and no one else. I guess if one had the guift of toungs, yet not that of interpritation, it would be "uttering meaningless syllables." Thanks for your input George |
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6 | Why so blind? | 1 Cor 13:12 | John Reformed | 91548 | ||
George, 1 Cor 12:30 All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they? 1 Cor 14:22 So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; Paul said that not all believers are given the gift, and that, tongues are for a sign to unbelievers. In my 10 years as a member of a pentacostal church, NOT ONCE did I hear a person speak in german or chinese or swahili. Their words were ALWAYS in (what was called) a heavenly or angelic language. The message was invariably an exhortation or "prophetic" word to the congregation. But prophecy itself is a different gift from tongues, and prophecy is for believers. And if tongues is for unbelievers, why are people using tongues to issue prophecy? Why not simply prophecy in the the native language of the congregation? The Bereans were not afraid to ask Paul to prove his doctrine with Scripture; neither should we be shy about asking our pastors and teachers to do the same. Fod Bless, John |
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7 | Why so blind? | 1 Cor 13:12 | GeorJoy | 91566 | ||
There is the "Carismatic movement," and I am sure many more who abuse, misuse and misinterpret what is taught about such. Personally, I have never expected to hear another language like german or chinese or swahili. I wouldn't have reconized them as such if I had. I can't say that I am "fully" comfortable with everyone who professes to speak in toungs either. But I do know what Gods word says about the utterance of such. And the Holy Spirit has given me discernment. I should think that anyone who believes the word without trying to change it would also. I know that there are those who love to be noticed in church, and elsewhere as well, but I have no intention of letting their actions sway what I know of the word, and why I am in the church in the first place. I believe in toungs. Once again, I also know what Paul said about them. If one does not feel comfortable around toungs, fine. If another does, that's just as fine. The belief or disbelief of such isn't going to get one into or keep him out of heaven. Personally... If it's of God... and He said I could have it.... I WANT IT.... John, if you don't think it's of God, please, I don't want to hear it. God Bless George |
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8 | Why so blind? | 1 Cor 13:12 | John Reformed | 91570 | ||
Dear George, In a previous you said "Toungs edify the individual, nothing and no one else." I showed that Paul states tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers. 1 Cor 14:22 So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; You said " But I do know what Gods word says about the utterance of such." Frankly George, I am at a loss as to what you are talking about! God never said we can have any gift for the asking. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are given to those whom God is pleased to give them to. They are distibuted among the body according to God's will. It is also likely that the miraculous sign gifts were for the early church and began to disappear as the cannon of Scripture was coming to perfection. Heb 1:1,2a God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, these last days has spoken to us in His Son,... John |
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9 | Why so blind? | 1 Cor 13:12 | GeorJoy | 91603 | ||
As I previously stated, I did not intend to spark a debate on this matter. It has nothing to do with the question posted and I respectfully decline your argument. Thus I consider it closed. George |
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