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1 | Theological Term: Ordo Salutis | Rom 8:31 | DocTrinsograce | 151193 | ||
The ordo salutis is Latin for "the order of salvation." "The ordo salutis is the theological doctrine that deals with the logical sequencing of the benefits of Salvation worked by Christ which are applied to us by the Spirit. This first thing to remember is that we must never seperate the benefits (regeneration, justification, sanctification) from the Benefactor (Jesus Christ). The entire process (election, redemption, regeneration, etc.) is the work of God in Christ and is by grace alone. Election is the superstructure of our ordo salutis, but not itself the application of redemption. Regeneration, the work of the Holy Spirit which brings us into a living union with Christ, has a causal priority over the other aspects of the process of salvation. God opens our eyes, we see. God circumcises/unplugs our ears, we hear. Jesus calls a dead and buried Lazarus out of the grave, he comes; In the same way, the Holy Spirit applies regeneration, (opening our spiritual eyes and renewing our affections), infallibly resulting in faith. All the benefits of redemption such as conversion (faith and repentance), justification, sanctification and perseverance presuppose the existence of spiritual life. The work of applying God's grace is a unitary process given to the elect simultaneously. This is instantaneous, but there is definitely a causal order (regeneration giving rise to all the rest). Though these benefits cannot be separated, it is helpful to distinguish them. Therefore, instead of imposing a chronological order we should view these as a unitary work of God to bring us into union with Christ. We must always keep in mind that the orders ... occur together or happen simultaneously like the turning on of a light switch or a faucet. But God turns on the light/faucet, so to speak. All aspects of the work of God continue together throughout the life of a Christian." --John Hendryx In Reformed thinking (based on Romans 8:29-30) the ordo salutis is 1) election 2) predestination 3) gospel call 4) inward call 5) regeneration 6) conversion (faith and repentance) 7) justification 8) sanctification 9) glorification In Arminian thinking the ordo salutis is 1) outward call 2) faith/election 3) repentance 4) regeneration 5) justification 6) perseverance 7) glorification "When we speak of an ordo salutis, we do not forget that the work of applying the grace of God to the individual sinner is a unitary process, but simply stress the fact that various movements can be distinguished in the process, that the work of the applicaiton of redemption proceeds in a definite and reasonable order, that God does not impart the fullness of his salvation to the sinner in a single act..." --Louis Berkhof "If one focuses not on Christ and His work but on personal application then the believer becomes turned in on himself instead of turned out from Himself towards Jesus Christ. This way of looking at the ordo salutis has given rise to an overly subjective spirituality. Christ is lost sight of in my efforts to analyze my own spirtual condition" --Sinclair Ferguson "In the degree to which the force of the original Reformation idea slackened, change came about with respect to it in the tradition emanating from Calvin and from Luther. Questions about the order of salvation (ordo salutis) came increasingly to receive attention in preference to questions about the history of salvation (historia salutis). While in Luther and Calvin all the emphasis fell on the redemptive event that took place with Christ's death and resurrection, later, under the influence of pietism, mysticism and moralism the emphasis shifted to the process of individual appropriation of the salvation given in Christ and to its mystical and moral effect in the life of the believer." --Herman Riddderbos |
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2 | Theological Term: Ordo Salutis | Rom 8:31 | peacebestill | 209210 | ||
Doc Quoting you; In Reformed thinking (based on Romans 8:29-30) the ordo salutis is 1) election 2) predestination 3) gospel call 4) inward call 5) regeneration 6) conversion (faith and repentance) 7) justification 8) sanctification 9) glorification In Arminian thinking the ordo salutis is 1) outward call 2) faith/election 3) repentance 4) regeneration 5) justification 6) perseverance 7) glorification I see some things missing from both examples of the order of salvation, "ordo salutis"? How about this for a model? 1)election by God in eternity past of the the saved 2)predestination by God in eternity past of the saved 3)gospel call as the outward call to all people 4)inward call as the Holy Spirit drawing by irresitable grace of the saved alone eventually resulting in salvation 5)regeneration 6)conversion by repentance and coming to a saving faith of the elected, predestined ones 7)justification as God declaring one made righteous before Him by the blood of Jesus 8)sanctification as the cleaning proccess by which the Holy Spirit does a work in us making us become like Jesus until the end at the final glorification 9)perseverance as the efforts of the saved to keep fast to the faith by the power of the Spirit 10)glorification as the final stage and act of sanctification whereby the saved become like Jesus I don't know what you think? I don't know why the reformed view leaves out perseverance, or do they lump that together with sanctification? I don't know what you think about the gospel call being offered to all even though few are called? peacebestill |
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3 | Theological Term: Ordo Salutis | Rom 8:31 | DocTrinsograce | 209239 | ||
Perseverance: See post #142403. | ||||||
4 | Theological Term: Ordo Salutis | Rom 8:31 | peacebestill | 209241 | ||
Doc Okay. peacebestill |
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