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1 | When and how EVIL came about? | Rom 5:12 | zerotheory | 65747 | ||
[quote from Robert] What is your definition of "evil"? If you look up the word in Strong's Concordance you will find that the word evil encompasses every negative act and word we could think of and in my humble opinion is a synomym to "sin". Take a look at this verse: "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."( Gen. 6:5) This is how God saw evil in the days of Noah. Humankind had become obsessed with sin in their thoughts and actions continually. Where does evil come from? a) The world system b) Our own sinful nature c) The enemy of souls, satan or the devil Good comes from God alone. "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man" James 1:13 In verse 17 he continues "Every good gift and perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning" The reason I keep focussing on evil since sin entered the world and tried not to speculate of a source beyond this world, is that it is here and now that we need to be concerned about, our relationship to God and not to be distracted by things which have no effect on our life. We know that the serpent of Genesis was involved in deceiving Eve into disobedience. He first of all questioned God's word, "hath God said?" He appeals to her pride telling her "your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil" Gen.3:5 He is telling her a part truth and an outright lie "thou shalt not surely die"(v. 4) We see the process of James 1:14-15 take place with dire consequences "Every man when he is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished brings forth death" (James 1: 14-15) It was satan who through the serpent planted the thought resulting in disobedience on the part of Eve followed by Adam and God was true to his word sin brought about death to the human race. I believe that Isaiah 14: 12-15 is referring to Satan or Lucifer an angel, created by God to a high place over creation. However, he had a desire which was against God "I will be like the most High". In Ezekial 28: 13-15 we have a description which describes the beauty of the cherub and the freedom he once had "until iniquity was found in thee" Ezekial 28:15 In other words satan made a choice to oppose himself against God and sealed his doom forever. Adam made a choice to disobey God and plunged the human race into sin. We rejoice however, that God by his grace has made a way whereby lost sinners can be redeemed and that is through the obedience of his Son upon the cross. Robert ******END QUOTE************** Robert, thank you for your answers. My trouble is in [Gen. 2.9]"And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil." Obviously evil existed before creation. It has existed since knowledge itself, which God has. As you said, "Good comes from God alone". Where does, did, evil come from? You explained sin from mankind but evil existed way before. How as evil created? Who created it? |
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2 | When and how EVIL came about? | Rom 5:12 | Robert Nicholson | 65756 | ||
Zerotheoryz: Have you considered the post from brother Tim Moran last Friday? Quote ""This is a tough question. My short answer would be this: Evil is not a thing that can be created. Rather, evil is the choice to disobey God's law. Evil is a natural possibility where choices are really available." So, evil did not have to be created, nor did it have to exist prior to creation. It simply was a natural result of the creation of beings with a will. Once the possiblity existed for Adam and Eve to disobey God, evil resulted. " (End of quote thanks to Tim Moran) Zero, re- "the knowledge of good and evil" Knowledge refers to the ability of a person to know the difference. Adam and Eve after receiving the knowledge of good and evil due to their act of disobedience experienced the feeling shame for the first time. I cannot except the idea of evil before creation. We are not given very much information about before creation, except that God had looked down through the ages and had purposed to redeem lost sinners through Christ "before the world began" Eph. 1:4 In Strong's concordance "evil" Strong's #07451 transliterated "Ra" is an adjective which would support the idea that we have evil actions as seen in disobedience and good actions as seen in obedience to God. Since God is the standard, everything else is measured relative to him. "In the beginning God (Elohim) Gen. 1:1 If try to look into the dateless past we find "Elohim" who was, who is and who will be, forever, for he is eternal. Peace in his name Robert |
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3 | Did God create "EVIL"? | Rom 5:12 | zerotheory | 65767 | ||
[quote from Robert] Have you considered the post from brother Tim Moran last Friday? Quote ""This is a tough question. My short answer would be this: Evil is not a thing that can be created. Rather, evil is the choice to disobey God's law. Evil is a natural possibility where choices are really available." So, evil did not have to be created, nor did it have to exist prior to creation. It simply was a natural result of the creation of beings with a will. Once the possiblity existed for Adam and Eve to disobey God, evil resulted. " (End of quote thanks to Tim Moran) Zero, re- "the knowledge of good and evil" Knowledge refers to the ability of a person to know the difference. Adam and Eve after receiving the knowledge of good and evil due to their act of disobedience experienced the feeling shame for the first time. I cannot except the idea of evil before creation. We are not given very much information about before creation, except that God had looked down through the ages and had purposed to redeem lost sinners through Christ "before the world began" Eph. 1:4 In Strong's concordance "evil" Strong's #07451 transliterated "Ra" is an adjective which would support the idea that we have evil actions as seen in disobedience and good actions as seen in obedience to God. Since God is the standard, everything else is measured relative to him. "In the beginning God (Elohim) Gen. 1:1 If try to look into the dateless past we find "Elohim" who was, who is and who will be, forever, for he is eternal. Peace in his name Robert **************End Quote************ "This is a tough question. My short answer would be this: Evil is not a thing that can be created. Rather, evil is the choice to disobey God's law. Evil is a natural possibility where choices are really available." [Gen. 2:16-17]"And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: [ver.17] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Clearly "GOOD" and "EVIL" exist and they exist only together. And they existed prior to creation. The choice is not a tree of "GOOD" *or* a tree of "EVIL", it's a tree of "GOOD and EVIL". "Since God is the standard, everything else is measured relative to him." Here is a "ZERO" theory summary: Everything, with the exception of "0", has an opposite that neutralizes the other and brings the two back to "0"(the "STANDARD"). Example:(positive-negative)(black-white)(night-day)(before-after)(up-down)(-2....2)(GOOD-EVIL). The twist is that they are both dependant upon each other for their very own existence, you can't have one without the other or they will both cease to exist. They both cease to exist because if you had just all "GOOD" then it wouldn't be "good" anymore it would be "STANDARD" and it can't be "STANDARD" because only "0" is "STANDARD". Can you see why I need to know where "evil" came from? Did God create "evil"? |
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4 | Did God create "EVIL"? | Rom 5:12 | Searcher56 | 65778 | ||
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