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1 | Opinions of J. Falwell on WTC attack. | Rom 3:23 | Not yet | 152338 | ||
Is there anyone, other than the scripturally ignorant, and those who wish to "burry their head in the sand," who honestly thinks that, even America can continue in their sin, without judgment? Our country was founded on a belief in God all mighty. Today, it's very foundation is eroding and being chipped away by the liberal minded Christian professing, worshipers of SELF. Could the words you quote not be truth? The next "alternative lifestyle" could very well be that of today’s terrorist. Just as was once the KKK. It is just as hideous and it's end is the same, death destruction and damnation. NYP. |
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2 | Opinions of J. Falwell on WTC attack. | Rom 3:23 | BradK | 152345 | ||
Hi NYP, I don't disagree with what you're saying in general. Maybe I misread your response, but are you supporting the statements by Falwell and Robertson? Could you clarify a bit:-) For the record, I don't hold the views of Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson when it comes to the judgment of America. I also don't consider myself a "liberal-minded Christian". Here's why: 1. Was this the Judgment of God? By strictly observing World events, if the U.S. has been judged because of our moral decay, what of godless Russia or China and other “evil nations”who have systematically murdered tens of millions of their own people? Would they not be more deserving of such judgement? ( Prov. 11:21) In answering this question, we must look to the Word of God as our final authority. In doing so, I must answer a resounding “No” based upon the following New Testament support. Christ states in John 5:22, "For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son..." We have two well-known verses that deal with future judgment: Romans 14:10, "But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God." 2 Corinthians 5:10, "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad." Both verses are in the future tense and are in reference to the Bema seat judgment. As Dr. Jerry Benjamin writes in his booklet, What is NOT the Judgment of God, “Although God will reprove, rebuke, and chasten man, the wrath or judgement of God will not take place until the Second Coming of Christ”. [Emphasis mine] Still further is the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20, a future event without doubt. (cf vs. 11-15) 2. Is God judging Nations today or individuals? Romans 9:22 states that, "What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction..." Could you provide some scriptural framework for your views? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | Opinions of J. Falwell on WTC attack. | Rom 3:23 | Not yet | 152362 | ||
I would provide scripture as a whole as the framework for my statements, which you refer to as, views. Surely you are aware of the judgments passed on, and endured by the nation Israel. What makes you think God has changed his way of dealing with men and nations? Can you provide scripture to the contrary? Those you have provided are most assuredly true, but way out of context concerning what I have stated. I think you may be confusing consequence with final judgment. As to judging another, I have stated many times, and I cannot understand why anyone who has read or studied scripture would not agree, that no one can judge another, but we have the authority and are expected to judge the actions of that other, and make them aware of the consequences thereof. I did not say “shove it down their throat.” I said “make them aware.” Just as our Lord did, and taught His original disciples to do. Yes, there will be a final judgment. Tell me where scripture states that there are not judgments and prices to pay before that final one. God passes judgments on individuals as well as nations, even today. Why He passes or does not pass judgments on any one particular individual or nation, is a question you will have to present to Him, for I am only another messenger of His word, not the originator thereof, nor one who claims to know the mind of God. These judgments do not always result in eternal damnation or death, but can you say that there are no lessons we can learn from them? Do you not think that if, perhaps we were to turn back to His Word, He might not choose to bless us, rather than allow such destruction as there has been in the last 3 or 4 years? In His Loving Name NYP |
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4 | Opinions of J. Falwell on WTC attack. | Rom 3:23 | BradK | 152376 | ||
Hi NYP, Please forgive me, but I think the burden of proof is on you, my friend! You said you'd provide scripture to support your views, but you have not:-) Am I missing something? You've made several general statements, but not given any means of Biblical support to them! You state "Can you provide scripture to the contrary? Those you have provided are most assuredly true, but way out of context concerning what I have stated." Can you demonstrate how these verses are "way out of context"? You state, "I think you may be confusing consequence with final judgment." If I am, would you, again, be so kind as to give some specific Biblical texts to explain what YOU are referring to? You say, "Yes, there will be a final judgment. Tell me where scripture states that there are not judgments and prices to pay before that final one." Once again the burden of proof is on you! Can you tell me by by using specific Biblical examples what you mean? Lastly, you state, that, "God passes judgments on individuals as well as nations, even today" Please cite scriptures to back up your position here. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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5 | Opinions of J. Falwell on WTC attack. | Rom 3:23 | Not yet | 152408 | ||
Brad, please forgive me, but it is not my place to "prove" anything to you, or anyone else. You have access to the Word just as I do. If you were familiar with it, you would know to what I refer. May I humbly suggest, you spend a little more time therein. In the KJV, there are 74 references to the word "judgment" in the NT; 58 references to the word "judge." Were you to do a word study on either, or both, no doubt, you wouldn't need me to provide you with the "proof" you desire, and the knowledge you gleaned would be much more valuable to you than if I did all the work.If you still do not find the "proof" you desire, you may wish to read up on some of the history books in the Bible. There are many statements which can only be found in scripture through the reading of more than just a passage or two. Think back to King David. Did he not see judgment while he was still alive, for his sin with Bathsheba? Did his very own son not rape his daughter, and the brother of that daughter, did he not kill that son? Did David, he who was after the very heart of God, not loose his kingdom? Do you think these occurrences were just fate? As I previously stated concerning my former statements, "I would provide [scripture as a whole] as the framework for my statements." Humbly NYP |
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6 | Opinions of J. Falwell on WTC attack. | Rom 3:23 | DocTrinsograce | 152411 | ||
Dear NYP, Sir, if your opinions are of so little value that you are unwilling to demonstrate them from scripture, I'd suggest that they are not worth posting in the forum. You suggest that Brother Brad ought to spend more time in the Word. In spite of the oxymoronic "humble suggestion," I find that I'm witnessing some of the most prideful statements I've seen in the forum for quite some time. If you choose to participate in the forum, then anything you post must be supported with scripture. That is part of the agreement when you created your two profiles. In Him, Doc |
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7 | Opinions of J. Falwell on WTC attack. | Rom 3:23 | Not yet | 152466 | ||
Well Doc, that's your opinion. I paraphrased Brother Brad some scripture to back up my assertion. That you wish to judge me an "oxymoron, and prideful" is your prerogative. I am thankful that you are not my ultimate judge, yet, if you insist on scripture, you may wish to consider the following "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Mat 7:1 - 2. And Brother Doc, I would ask you the following, "Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.Romans 14:4 If you do not recognize the scriptural validity of my posts to Brother Brad, perhaps you will recognize it herein. Now, dear Brother Doc, the question is, can you accept, and perhaps learn something from your brazen attack on me, and take it to heart in a Christlike manor? As to any farther correspondence on this matter, you can retort if you wish. I choose to drop it, for I can forsee nothing coming from it which will glorify our Lord, and I will ignore any such retort which does not measure up to the letter of scripture. 1. This post is biblically based and (---whenever possible,---) I have included Bible references to support it. 2. This post is not intended as a personal attack on the authority of the Bible or on other users of this forum. 3. This post is not submitted as an effort to foster divisiveness, ill-will, dissension or other disruptions to this forum. 4. I have carefully proofread my post and believe it represents my best efforts. Serving Him in truth. NYP |
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