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1 | Perseverance and the word given here? | Rom 15:5 | Morant61 | 216405 | ||
Greetings John! I'm home now! :-) I hate typing on my phone. I limit myself to very brief responses. There are two issues involved. First, what does the text say. Secondly, what does the text mean. The first is very straight forward. Verbs take direct objects. 'Perseverance' and 'endurance' are both adjectives describing the noun God, and thus, cannot be the direct object of the verb 'to give'. What is given is 'the same to think'. The second question concerns what does the phrase 'the same to think' mean. Does it mean that God gives us our thoughts? No! It is simply saying that Paul wants God to give the Romans a 'unity of thought'. Paul said much the same thing to the Philippians when he prayed that they would be like minded in Phil. 2:2. In fact, the Greek phrase is very similar. It is 'the same you would think', where in Rom. 15:5, it is 'the same to think'. As for James 1:17, the question was not whether 'perseverance' is ever called a gift, but whether it was what was given in Rom. 15:5. The answer is that it was not 'given' in Rom. 15:5. There certainly may be other places where it is described as a gift, but not in Rom. 15:5. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Perseverance and the word given here? | Rom 15:5 | brothersmith | 216442 | ||
This clears up some things. Still trying to get the hang of the process of folks answering, took a few days before I had time to come back. I do not know any Greek. You seem to understand something about the language there. A visiting Pastor at our church told us that perseverance and encouragement are both adjectives in English in this verse, but not in Greek because they are nouns in this verse. Is this wrong headded thinking? |
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3 | Perseverance and the word given here? | Rom 15:5 | Morant61 | 216447 | ||
Greetings Brothersmith! The pastor was correct that encouragement and perseverance are both nouns, but in Greek, nouns can function as adjectives by putting the noun in the genitive case. For instance, if you wanted to say 'Fiery torch' you would simply write, 'torch of fire'. That is what has taken place in this verse. So, even though the two words are nouns, they are being used as adjectives to describe God. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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