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1 | Are Tounges a sign of Spiritual Baptism | Acts 2:4 | inmyheart | 73343 | ||
BradK, Jesus Christ said believers would: John 4:23-24 But the hour cometh, and now is [almost here], when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; Jesus Christ declared that believers would "speak with new tongues." It does not say apostles. It does not say "only in the first century." It says "them that believe." Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. Ten days later these men (and about 3 thousand others) received the promised holy spirit and they spoke in tongues. Speaking in tongues is not a special gift as some declare. Speaking in tongues is the proof on the outside that you are born again with holy spirit on the inside. You cannot see spirit. But you can see the evidence of it when a believer speaks in tongues. They saw it on Pentecost as the apostles spoke in tongues and asked "What do we have to do to be saved and have this ability as well?" They were not asking about the spirit that they could not see. They were asking about the tongues they heard. "How can we speak in tongues, Peter?" Peter told them about the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Because to be saved you must "confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead" [Romans 10:9-10]. Once they believed, the promise of holy spirit [which includes the ability to speak in tongues] was theirs: Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent [change!] and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall [absolutely!] receive [the Greek word is lambano which means to receive outwardly in evidence or manifestation] the gift of the Holy Ghost. The people asked Peter about the tongues they had just heard. Peter told them that when they believed they too would speak in tongues. They too would receive the gift of holy spirit and they too would manifest it outwardly by speaking in tongues. There is only one gift: the holy spirit from God. There are many ways to use it, tongues being one. Speaking in tongues is the proof you have the holy spirit on the inside. Its main function is your private worship of God - it is perfect prayer. But in every record in Acts where a group of believers is first born again of God's spirit the outward evidence or proof to those "witnessing the birth" is the new believer speaks in tongues. Thank you for your response, however, I only gave my post in reply, not to debate. As you know this topic has been well debated and your point is well understood, and there would be no success in further discussion. God bless YOU!!! |
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2 | Are Tounges a sign of Spiritual Baptism | Acts 2:4 | BradK | 73345 | ||
Inmyheart, It is not my intent to "debate" but rather to discuss. You still did not address the specific grammatical problems I brought up :-) If Jesus Christ said believers would, then how are we to align that with scripture where Paul clearly says "not all have the gift of tongues"? Speaking the Truth In Love, BradK |
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3 | Are Tounges a sign of Spiritual Baptism | Acts 2:4 | inmyheart | 73354 | ||
BradK, "Discuss" debate, it is your intention :) I would disagree that the Bible says tongues is the least of all gifts. I believe that you have misunderstood I Corinthians 14. Paul was not talking against tongues, but was only declaring that prophecy was better than tongues in the context of corporate worship (the context of I Corinthians 12, 14 indicates that Paul is speaking of corporate worship) because prophecy can be understood by all, whereas tongues cannot. Paul was concerned about the edification of the church (I Corinthians 14:12, 26). Tongues would only edify the individual speaking in tongues, but not the body (I Corinthians 14:2-4). Paul was not downplaying tongues. He was only explaining to the Corinthians that in corporate worship, the edification of the whole body should be the main concern. In fact, Paul put tongues on the same level of prophecy if those tongues were interpreted: "I would that you all spoke with tongues but rather that you prophesied: for greater is he that prophesies than he that speaks with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying" (I Corinthians 14:5; emphasis mine). In the context of provoking the Corinthians to edify the body Paul said, "Even so, forasmuch as you are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that you may excel to the edifying of the church. Wherefore let him that speaks in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret" (I Corinthians 14:12-13). If tongues were interpreted, they would bring edification to the body just as would prophecies. That Paul was not against tongues-speaking, even in the context of corporate worship is evident. Notice that in I Corinthians 14:5 Paul said he wanted everyone to be speaking in tongues. That is hardly tantamount to Paul discouraging tongues or saying that tongues are the most undesirable gift. He even says, "Forbid not to speak in tongues" (I Corinthians 14:39). He only placed limits on the exercise of uninterpreted tongues so that the body would be edified, rather than just the individual. God bless |
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4 | Are Tounges a sign of Spiritual Baptism | Acts 2:4 | BradK | 73384 | ||
Dear Inmyheart, I have most certainly not misunderstood 1 Cor. 14:-)However, I'll simply agree to disagree on this matter. Speaking the Truth In Love, BradK |
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5 | Are Tounges a sign of Spiritual Baptism | Acts 2:4 | inmyheart | 73416 | ||
BradK, I do not believe that Christianity is a religion. Religions are man's ways of worshiping God. Christianity is what God did for us in Christ Jesus. Christianity is truth. Christianity is the way of a Father [God] with his family [us]. Truth does not have "sides to argue about"; nor does it need to be defended. Truth simply needs to be presented and believed. So, if you want discussion . . . God bless you - |
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6 | Are Tounges a sign of Spiritual Baptism | Acts 2:4 | John Reformed | 73432 | ||
While Christianity is the only "Faith" that contains God's truth, it is.nevertheless a "religion". Religion: 1. The outward act or form by which men indicate their recognition of the existence of a god or of gods having power over their destiny, to whom obedience, service, and honor are due; the feeling or expression of human love, fear, or awe of some superhuman and overruling power, whether by profession of belief, by observance of rites and ceremonies, or by the conduct of life; a system of faith and worship; a manifestation of piety; as, ethical religions; monotheistic religions; natural religion; revealed religion; the religion of the Jews; the religion of idol worshipers.(Webster's Dictionary 1913) One thing which seperates the historic Protestant religion from all others is the doctrine of sola fide; we are saved by faith alone. All other religions depend on faith plus works to one extent or another. John |
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7 | Are Tounges a sign of Spiritual Baptism | Acts 2:4 | Hank | 73443 | ||
John, but of course you're correct: Christianity is indeed a religion, that according to James 1:27. So, according to Paul, is Judaism [cf. Acts 26:5]. Whoever hatched the idea that Christianity isn't a religion? It isn't a science, a business, or a football game! It's a religion, and meets the basic criteria of the definition, but we Christians would expand on the definition of the specific religion called Christianity -- expand on it in order to narrow it down, even though this at first may appear a foolish thing to attempt: to expand in order contract. As we agree with the world that Christianity is indeed a religion and concede that it is one among many, it is our burden to show that what the Bible says is true, that Jesus is who He says He is, that there is no other way, and back up our words with changed lives, the fruits by which, Jesus says, the world will know who we are. The Bible clearly states the truth. Our lives ought to illustrate it. The early Christians referred to their religion as The Way. I have an idea that they may have laid the stress on the word "The"! Likewise should we. In our day of too much watered down theology and too many namby-pamby churches who are deathly afraid they may offend by taking a firm stand, it's no wonder that those who really stand for almost nothing having fallen for just about anything. --Hank | ||||||
8 | Are Tounges a sign of Spiritual Baptism | Acts 2:4 | John Reformed | 73449 | ||
Dear Hank, It's good to hear from you. I think that there are many churches today that are seeking to re-define the mission of the church. Part of that redifinition are statments like the one I just addressed. What is more alarming is the "seeker-sensitive" approach to the gospel. Rather than preaching man's desperate plight, that they are children of wrath and under a curse for their sin; and the good news of salvation through faith in Christ; They attempt to lure people to church with promises of health, wealth and happiness. We have a mega-church here in Tucson that was at one time Southern Baptist but no longer uses the denominations title on it's signnage or in it's literature or advertising. Whether they have broken away or not, I could'nt say. Anyway, I heard an ad from this church on the radio encouraging the listeners to attend their Sunday service to discover just how much "fun" God is. I'm sure you are gratified that they have dropped the denomination's name. I wish that the mainline liberal presbyterians would do the same. It is fortunate for them that John Knox is not on earth any longer! John |
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