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1 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | Huron | 150954 | ||
Is Peter saying here that the Holy Spirit is for ALL generations? If yes, does this mean speaking in tongues? Regards, Huron |
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2 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | David Yew | 150959 | ||
Yes! The Holy Spirit is for all believers of all generation. No! Speaking in tongues is not equivalent of having the Holy Spirit David Love - An intelligent willingness to do what is best for the other person |
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3 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | Huron | 150966 | ||
I don't want to get too far off topic, but it seems that pro-tongues groups believe that the initial evidence of Baptism with the Holy Spirit IS that of speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives utterance. Apparently, this is how Peter knew that the Gentiles had received the Holy Spirit - they heard them speaking in tongues (Acts 10:44-46). It seems that subscribers to Pentecostal theology believe that Baptism with the Holy Spirit is NOT: simply for the Apostolic days, not the New Birth, and not Sanctification. I'm interested in the question of whether or not speaking in Tongues is only for the Apostolic days. Thanks! Huron |
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4 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | JCrichton | 150980 | ||
Hi, Huron! The Amish, as well as others, believe that technology should not be part of the Believers' life... there are various interpretations of Scriptures that, for the most part, are extremist views that hinder rather than aide man in worshipping God... There were Christians buying into extemes way back when.. Paul addressed the issue of speaking in strange tongues as follows: 1 Corinthians 14 :2 those who speak in them speak to God not others; :4 they help themselves only; :5 I would rather that you proclaim God's Word; :12 aspire for the gifts of the Spirit with which you can help the Church; :19 in Church worship I would rather speak five words that can be understood by all, than thousands in strange tongues; :22 speaking in strange tongues is proof for unbelievers (those who reject God) not for believers; while proclaiming God's message is proof for believers! I've paraphrased these verses, for the unedited version read 1 Corinthians 14:1-25; for mandates on orderly service with reference to speaking in tongues, read 1 Corinthians 14:26-33--note that Paul specifically calls to order that no more than two or three should speak in tongues, and that there should be an order (not everyone all at once); he also cautions that if there is none who can interprete then those speaking in tongues should be doing it in a quiet manner in order to facilitate and orderly service... it is understood that any revelation must be for the edification of the Church--pesonal revelations or any other revelation is unwarranted! Now, since the Holy Spirit did not just appear on earth for the sole purpose of introducing the disciples to the Jewish and Gentile communities, we must understand that He is able to give any Gift to any member of Christ's Body; the gift of tongues is no exception--there's no time restriction to the Holy Spirit's function in the Church! Sadly, we take the Holy Scripture to extremes and we create theologies that, in essence, places God under our control: speaking in tongues; handling serpents; transportation to Heaven; discerning spirits; having the keys to Heaven, life, wealth, health, longevity, exclusive relationships with Christ, the Father, the Holy Spirit; personal revelations; special knowledge of the future... all for the asking, by following some formula or "little known secrets" of the Holy Scripture... When we claim to be able to do something that other Christians cannot do or when we claim that to be in Christ a person must do precisely what we demand of them to do... does that not verge on egocentrism? Speaking in tongues is possible for Christians... but the lack of the ability to speak in tongues does not demonstrate lack of faith or some form of disenfranchisement from God! It is the Holy Spirit who determines what Gift to bestow upon the Believer and when (1 Corinthians 12:4-11); He will impart you, me or any other Christian with the ability that we need to edify the Church... no one can demand or subscribe to a special forum of "self-service" gifts! God Bless! Angel |
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5 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | Huron | 151001 | ||
Do you think that Acts 2:39 is meant to include ALL Generations that will ever live? Did all Christians in the Apostolic age that had been baptized with the Holy Spirit speak in tongues? Thanks! Huron |
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6 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | JCrichton | 151019 | ||
Hi, Huron! Peter is not saying that all who are baptized and receive the Holy Spirit will be speaking in tongues as a sign that they are part of the Body of Christ... what he is saying is that all Believers throughout time till the return of our Lord will receive the Holy Spirit--this is the same premise made by Christ (John 14:16-17--compare similar inclusion in 2 Timothy 1:7-9 and John 17:15-21); Scripture never stipulates that all who were baptized and received the Holy Spirit spoke in strange languages or that they performed any extraordinary signs! God Bless! Angel |
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7 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | Huron | 151031 | ||
"Scripture never stipulates that all who were baptized and received the Holy Spirit spoke in strange languages..." True, but in Acts it was the thing that convinced them that the various groups had received the Baptism with the Holy Spirit in Acts 2, and in Acts 10. Getting back to the question, is there strong scriptural evidence that speaking in tongues was only for the Apostolic age besides 1 Cor 13:8-10? (The reason I say that is because it's possible to interpret "when the perfect comes" as heaven) Thanks! Huron |
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8 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | JCrichton | 151070 | ||
Hi, Huron! Not all were convinced... some just simply played it down as though the Apostles were drunk or crazy... this is the reason why Peter corrected them (Acts 2:14-42)... true, wonderous things happened to demonstrate the Coming of the Holy Spirit... but we must use reason when reading the Holy Scripture: *We must understand that neither all of Jesus' nor all of His disciples' accomplishments and teachings were recorded (way back when there was no such thing as printing pressess and copying machines, everything was done within certain constraints). * Not every single even occurred in a single formatted fashion. * The Holy Spirit did not come to perform wholesale signs and miracles. * There's always a purpose for God's revelations and demonstrations of Power/Authority. * The Holy Spirit is with us forever, till the end of times! I offer the following passages where baptism took place but there was no mention of any special signs: Acts 8:12-26; 8:26-39; 9:18-20; 16:9-15; 16:25-34; 18:5-11... since the Bible does not enumarate every single event in the life of the Church, we must accept the fact that there were way much more baptism performed than those listed and that there would be a variation in the revelation of the Holy Spirit--the Holy Spirit is not performing for Believers or non-Believers; He is exacting God's Plan and, as the Divine executor, He has full Authority and control over what transpires as demonstration of His presence among the Believers! In example: How many people came to their conversion as Saul? How many were placed as precursors to Christ? It is God who determines what must transpire to keep His Plan functioning within His appointed time! Speaking in tongues, as any other Gift, is part of the Church's past and is part of the Church's continued function... however, there is but one Pentecost, and one demonstration that the Holy Spirit has been given to the Church! (John 14:16; Matthew 16:17-18; Acts 2:17-21; John 17:9, 19-23) "1 Cor 13:8-10? (The reason I say that is because it's possible to interpret "when the perfect comes" as heaven)" I must disagree with you on this point... read 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 in light of 1 John 3:2-3... it is Jesus who must come so that we can inherit the final transition as children of God: perfection: the essense of God! Further, the Kingdom of God is at hand! Jesus elevated His disciples to this understanding (where would we go--John 6:68) and He announced that if these things were happening (miracles, cures, baptism...) it was a demonstration that God's Kingdom was at hand (Matthew 4:11; Luke 21:31; 17:19-22). God Bless! Angel |
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9 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | Huron | 151080 | ||
Angel, Thanks for sticking with this discussion. I can see that you've put some time into your efforts. Before we continue our discussion, let me clarify a few things. I'm not saying that ALL were convinced. What I meant was that tongues were the sign by which the apostles were convinced that the Holy Spirit had fallen on the Gentiles in Acts chapter 10. Secondly, to keep things clear let's not confuse water baptism with baptism with the Holy Spirit. In two documented cases in Acts, Baptism with the Holy Spirit preceded water baptism. Acts 10:44-48 is a great example. The important question is whether Baptism with the Holy Spirit and the initial evidence of speaking with tongues is for ALL generations. Now, getting back to 1 Corinthians 13:8-10. It's certainly possible to interpret that as Jesus's coming. Point remains the same. Neither heaven, or Jesus's second coming are past tense, so since the "perfect" has not come, it would seem to indicate that tongues hasn't ceased according to 1 Corinthians 13:8-10. |
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10 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | Searcher56 | 151096 | ||
Huron, God's day to you, Three points - The promise of Acts 2:39, IF related to verses 17-21, could be viewed as the promise of Israel, based the the prophecy of Joel. - Since no gift of the Spirit is given to all (1 Cor 12-14), it cannot be initial evidence of the Holy Spirit. - Tongues have no bearing perfect coming, while prohecy and knowledge do (1 Cor 13:8-10). ... I have posts on all three of these. Searcher |
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11 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | Huron | 151101 | ||
Searcher, -Point #1 Interesting viewpoint. Would Hebrew believers then in your opinion still speak in tongues? Peter did not say that the prophecy was fulfilled, and thus no longer relevant. Contrast this with Matthew 21:4,5; 27:35 speaking of one time fulfilled events. #2 In Acts 2:16, Acts 10:45-46, and in Acts 19:6 speaking in tongues was the initial evidence that they looked at to determine that they had in fact been baptized with the Holy Spirit. Notice the use of the word "for" in Acts 10:46. Point #3 True, but when is the "perfect coming", and if it hasn't come yet is tongues still relevant. Thanks for your consideration! Huron |
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12 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | Searcher56 | 151120 | ||
Huron, God's day to you. Please read my posts and respond there, except for Acts 2:39. On point 1 ... Where does Acts 2:39 (or context) say anything about speaking in tongues. The Bible doesn't say new believers (2:41) spoke in tongues. I think Joel's prophecy will be fufilled for Israel, only. For point #2 Acts 10:46, read my post 151116. For point #3, read my post 115093. Again, tongues is not related to the perfect coming. Read my post 116386 for more on tongues. Tongues was the initial evidence twice of many salvation occurances. Searcher |
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13 | Holy Spirit / Tongues for Today? | Acts 2:39 | Huron | 151158 | ||
On point #1, you have to read from Acts 2:4 through Acts 2:38 and 2:39 together. Pay special attention to 2:16 and 2:17,33. | ||||||
14 | Did the 12 (or 120) believe on Penecost? | Acts 2:39 | Searcher56 | 151195 | ||
I have read the passage and see the 12 (or 120) spoke in tongues long after they believed. Or do you think that they believed on Penetcost? | ||||||
15 | Did the 12 (or 120) believe on Penecost? | Acts 2:39 | Huron | 151260 | ||
Interesting question! First of all, I would have said 120 if you had asked me yesterday how many where there. Now, I'm not sure either way. Secondly, I think that they had believed for quite a while before they spoke in tongues. I had heard two years from the resurrection of Christ to the day of Pentecost. Not sure where that comes from. What do you think? |
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