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1 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Country Girl | 133529 | ||
Prayon, dear friend You already know there's no such verse in the Bible. One has to study the ways of God and then study the ways of the devil. For the simplest display of that contrast, we must go back to the Garden of Eden. There God told Adam and Eve they could eat of anything in the Garden EXCEPT for the fruit from the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge. In such a scenario, God assumes since He is the Creator and we are the Created that we know how to respond and indeed Adam and Eve did obey. That is, they did so until Satan entered the picture and inserted one single word and of course that was NOT. He lied and deceived Adam, and most specifically Eve in that he said they would NOT die in spite of what God said. Remember, up until that point, Adam and Eve hadn't even looked at that fruit as there was no question but simple obedience. But when Satan put doubt in their minds, that's when they looked and saw the fruit "looked good for food." Now in the same respect, we like Adam and Eve are given certain guidelines to follow to become a child of God as clearly stated in my posts. Then the devil enters the picture and "re-interprets" the Gospel message in man's mind so much so that he actually deceives himself into believing God will accept him in spite of its not being complete obedience. In this scenario, Satan puts doubt into the minds of men and we think "What's the sense of being dunked in a tub of water? How can that possibly save me from my sins?" Whole generations are brought up on this re-interpreted Gospel so that young people are motivated to follow their parents or their mentors and develop their own theology. Thus the way of man, we (all of us, me included) are inclined to want to have things go our own way, it's the way we're brought up as humans. We all want to leave our mark on the world, to show our descendents where we lived, how we lived and why we did the things we did. But in our most sober moment, i.e. on our deathbed, we begin to think "Did I do the things I did for my glory or for God's Glory? Am I actually going to be ready to meet my maker and endure the Judgment Bar of God?" No, I'm afraid I can't quote you a verse that's going to satisfy your request. I can only refer you to the facts of the previous few posts and the scriptures in support thereof. Have you ever thought about Noah and his predicament? He went through a 100 years plus of ridicule, simply obeying his God in building a huge boat, many miles from deep water. I'm sure he was probably tempted and thought "Lord, wonder if I do NOT build this boat. Won't you find another way to save me and my family?" Just a thought for you to consider. I'm sure to the whole world, other than his family, Noah's boat seemed just as silly as baptism does to you. Sorry, but I do hope you'll reconsider your position in light of ALL of what God says on this matter. He'll certainly remind you on Judgment Day. God bless you, my friend. Keep studying and praying. Rowdy |
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2 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Hank | 133572 | ||
Rowdy or Country Girl or Whoever You Are: It's difficult to opt between which is the more confusing, your identity or your theology. Are you Rowdy or Country Girl, or both? Difficult indeed it is to tie in Adam and Eve and Noah with baptism. Admitting your inability to answer Prayon's question with biblical references, you attempt to circumfuse the question with smoke and haze. You cite no Scripture. The only case you make is one based purely on opinion. This is not Bible study that you give. It is not exegesis. It is opinion. That, and nothing else. If Prayon had wanted your opinion, chances are she would have asked for it. But Prayon didn't ask for your opinion. She asked for Bible proof. You did not give it to her because you had none to give. Prayon deserves better treatment than your post gave her. So does the rest of the Forum. Please comply with the guidelines of this Forum or get off of it. If you don't give two pins for the Lockman guidelines, if they don't mean much to you, then perhaps you will at least honor 1 Peter 3:15 and choose henceforth "to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence." --Hank | ||||||
3 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133578 | ||
As I noted in another post, Country Gir is my wife and I neglected to change the automatic ID that comes up on the computer, thus my big goof. I apologize for the confusion. I didn't give scriptures as you put it because I've cited all 87 of them in the past. The sum total of those scriptures do make for a rather strong conclusion in most Bible student's minds, including mine. But you seem to have neglected to notice my challenge was never met with scripture either. I'll repeat the challenge for your reference and response if you'd like. Basically, I'm looking for a verse that says that we can be saved by faith only (alone) or belief only (alone), excluding all other features of Christianity. As I'm sure you already know, I mentioned earlier in the thread, the only place in the Bible that mentions this phrase is from James. James 2:24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. In this verse the concept of "faith alone" is cited in a negative context. That is, faith alone won't get you anything with man or God. In this world, if a man says he has faith but then does NOT act like it, we say he's a hypocrite. Same attitude with God and His Son as shown in Rev 3:16. I don't see how the Bible or I could be any more clear about the matter. As I mentioned previously God does expect us to use our intellect and make certain conclusions based on His Word, especially in those few areas when some few verses aren't ideally clear like those verses pointed out by our dear friend Tim. I've also mentioned God isn't going to make this process of digging out His commands any simpler than He already has. It's all in His Book, our Bible. You know the scriptures at least as well as I do, probably a little better. This I do know: God will hold ALL of us accountable to His Words just like His Son said. John 12:44 And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. 45 "He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me. 46 "I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me will not remain in darkness. 47 "If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day. 49 "For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak. 50 "I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told Me." Is there anything more that could possibly be said that hasn't been said already? Take a look and let me know. God bless. Rowdy |
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4 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Morant61 | 133588 | ||
Greetings Rowdy! You wrote: "As I mentioned previously God does expect us to use our intellect and make certain conclusions based on His Word, especially in those few areas when some few verses aren't ideally clear like those verses pointed out by our dear friend Tim." With all due respect my friend, you have to be joking! Right? Let's look at one example of the 24 verses I cited for you. John 3:36 - "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him." Now, how can you possible say that this verse is not clear? If you 'believe' (the verbal form of the Greek word for 'faith'), you have eternal life. If you don't believe, you don't have eternal life. Seems pretty clear to me! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133597 | ||
Please believe me, dear friend Tim. I'm quite serious. The reason for my statement about the Bible not being quite clear is represented by the sum total of ALL of God's Word on this rather wide topic of what it takes to comply with God's commands and receive the Gift of Salvation on Judgment Day. That my friend is not quite so clear when our Lord does clearly say that His Words will Judge us on that Judgment Day. So the correct conclusion is try to make sense of it all and follow God's commands as best as we possibly can. Would you not agree this is our charge from God Almighty? This seems pretty clear to me. Looking forward to your response. God bless. Rowdy |
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6 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | BradK | 133612 | ||
Rowdy, I'm sorry, but what on earth do you mean by "comply with God's commands and receive the Gift of Salvation on Judgment Day." ??? We have eternal salvation the moment we accept the Lord Jesus Christ by faith! (Eph. 1:7,13)Are you implying that one is not truly saved until Judgment Day? Where does scripture tell us that we'll "receive the gift of Salvation on Judgment Day? A believer HAS eternal life, not WILL HAVE, or MIGHT have, based upon belief in the Person of the Savior. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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