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1 | R, Can you Biblically justify actions? | Acts 20:28 | EdB | 135155 | ||
Reighnskye You said church ordained marriages are not illegal. Do you know of any church that does marriages without a marriage license? In Florida the law clearly states a marriage license must be obtained and signed for the marriage to exist. Now if you want to call something outside this a marriage fine, but what your really after is a redefinition of marriage as defined by the law of the land. You said I suggest you play the hero and champion this cause but you said it could take your life time. Perhaps but if no one begins it will probably never change. You said no insurance polices accept existing medical conditions and that is simply not true. Many major employers have policies that cover a new employee and his family or an employees new spouse without any conditions on preexisting illness. In your discussion on this every time someone has presented a valid point you add another twist to the story. Such as your brother is infertile, etc. Frankly that tells me your not looking for an answer your trying to champion your case here. That is okay too. Look your in a lousy situation, I agree. The law doesn’t seem fair. I agree. You keep referring to Genesis 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. As God’s ideal for marriage. If you look closely it says nothing about the any church involvement either. If that is what you consider marriage fine. But again I remind you that is a redefinition of the term marriage as defined by the law of the land. You can call it anything you want but that does not make it a marriage. You said I offered some unpleasant scenarios. I wasn’t trying to paint a bad picture what I was trying to show you without a legally recognized marriage you forfeited all rights, protections, obligations and liabilities offered to a “married couple”. In fact you and your ‘wife’ would be nothing more than two single people. Also know if you live together for 7 years you could be declared common law. I’m not a lawyer nor do I pretend to know all the law but I believe this can be initiated by the state should they feel your attempting to circumvent the law. In a word God does not define marriage other than setting these conditions or obligations. Genesis 2:24, Proverbs 2:17, Malachi 2:14, Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:5, Mark 10:7, Mark 10:9, Luke 16:18, John 4:18, Romans 7:2, 1 Corinthians 7:10, 1 Corinthians 7:11, 1 Corinthians 7:39, Ephesians 5:28, Ephesians 5:31 EdB |
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2 | R, Can you Biblically justify actions? | Acts 20:28 | Reighnskye | 135207 | ||
EdB, You stated: 1. "You said church ordained marriages are not illegal. Do you know of any church that does marriages without a marriage license?" Why yes I do. A family member of mine was joined in a homosexual marriage under church authority. Church-ordained marriages are not illegal. Does this answer your question? Perhaps you've heard of this very thing. 2. "In Florida the law clearly states a marriage license must be obtained and signed for the marriage to exist. Now if you want to call something outside this a marriage fine, but what your really after is a redefinition of marriage as defined by the law of the land." What I'm really after is a strictly scriptural definition of marriage, without secularly-derived definitions. I am not looking for a redefinition of marriage, but rather a pre-existing biblical definition of marriage. Again, all I've been provided by posters in this thread thus far are secularly-derived definitions. 3. "You said I suggest you play the hero and champion this cause but you said it could take your life time. Perhaps but if no one begins it will probably never change." I have not been called to this role of changing the laws of the land, nor do I desire to change them. I currently have other life priorities. 4. "You said no insurance polices accept existing medical conditions and that is simply not true. Many major employers have policies that cover a new employee and his family or an employees new spouse without any conditions on preexisting illness." I am aware of the insurance policies which you mention. The obstacle, however, in my obtaining such an insurance policy is that I must first work for the company which offers it. These companies do not hand out these exclusive insurance policies to individuals who do not work for them. I do not work for these companies because I am medically disabled, thereby disqualifying me for coverage. These policies are only available to the working sector. I currently work a limited number of hours for one company, but the insurance policy that you describe is only available to management personnel there. Management personnel must work full-time. I cannot work full-time, because I am handicapped. This is why government medical funding has been provided to me, so long as I am unmarried by the government. These policies which you mentioned are not available to all. Rather, they are selectively targeted. 5. "In your discussion on this every time someone has presented a valid point you add another twist to the story. Such as your brother is infertile, etc. Frankly that tells me your not looking for an answer your trying to champion your case here. That is okay too. Look your in a lousy situation, I agree. The law doesn’t seem fair. I agree." What you are overlooking is that the twists to my story are real life experiences. You may indeed find it easier to invalidate my real life experiences, by entertaining the false notion that they do not affect me, and I am simply trying to champion my cause. However, I suggest that if you cannot palate the twists of my life, then you should probably refrain from offering counsel to me in my situation, insofar as it will fall far short. In the end, however, I have ultimately requested scriptural representation for your stance, as opposed to politically-based legal definitions of marriage. - Genesis 2 24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed. (NAS95) (continued) |
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