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1 | does one need to be baptised to be saved | John 3:5 | ROGER459 | 131101 | ||
IT IS WRITTEN..Luke 4:4 (Ephesians 2:8-9-10) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: (Eph 2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.(Eph 2:10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (Titus 3:5) Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; (Galatians 3:2) This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Now, how can I add anything to the Finished Work of Christ. Upon Believing on Christ and His payment for 'my sins' , "HOW COULD I ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? Upon believing, "as the Scripture has said..John 7:38" I was given the Holy Spirit, which is God's assurance that I am His Child. IT IS HIS FINISHED WORK! (2Corinthians 4:7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. This Treasure, God's Holy Spirit, is His redemption of anyone who Believes on Christ! This is what God says in His Word, and "not what some church or denomination says!" He again says: (Ephesians 1:13-14) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,(Eph 1:14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of His glory. Salvation came first, by the Holy Spirit, yet you tell me that Baptism is a part of that? The Word of God, tells me something different! Who am I to believe, "you or God?" Once again, Salvation is by Grace, through Faith! God in response send His Holy Spirit, to seal that Beliver, that the Power in us, may be of Him and not ourselves. You trust in His Finished Word, or you trust in your own works! You cannot have it both ways, for the Word says: (Romans 11:6) And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. The "FINSHED WORK OF CHRIST" is complete! How can you add anything to salvation? How can you add works [baptism] to Grace, and say it is a part of Salvation? You CAN'T! I simply ask you, for a moment, to get a piece of paper. Draw a Large Cross on it, from the top to the Bottom. On the LH side, add in your doctrine of Baptism as 'what you understand to be a part of Salvation'. Oh the Rh side, take these scriptures, and then Compare them to the Finished Work of Christ! You will have to conclude, that God's Word holds all authority above any church or denomination, as Christ said, "IT IS WRITTEN..Matt 4:4" Then rethink you position. Ask God if what He said in His Word, is the Truth? [John 17:17] Thank you! |
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2 | does one need to be baptised to be saved | John 3:5 | JCrichton | 131168 | ||
Hi, ROGER! All I can say to you is that you do an excellent job in using Scripture to rebuke Jesus' Command to the disciples to go and baptize! (Matthew 28:19; John 3:5; ...But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John.--Luke 7:29-30). Please do not confuse God's Gift of Salvation with God's Commands! Though we cannot do anything to merit salvation--and Jesus has done all that is required--we are Commanded by our Lord Jesus Christ to perform certain functions and to behave in a certain manner; to think that we can hold on to some clause without humble obedience to His Word is to place ourselves in the group which Jesus has admonished: 'It is not anyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?" Then I shall say to them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, all evil doers! (Matthew 7:21-23) Salvation is not mere words or an empty belief system; Salvation is Christ Jesus... He Himself has stated that many will claim to be saved (to be in Him) and He will flatly reject them! It is not enough to know Scripture! As James said we must be doers of the Word! (James 1:22) The best way that we can live the Word is by being obedient to Christ--regardless of how advanced we think we may be in our wisdom and understanding of Scripture! There is nothing I can say to you to bring you to humble obedience of the Word Christ has spoken... hence, there's little to gain in continuing this thread! Please accept my respectful departure from this particular thread exchange. God Bless! Angel |
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