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NASB John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
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John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God. [Ezek 36:25-27]
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Subject:  does one need to be baptised to be saved

Bible Note:  IT IS WRITTEN..Luke 4:4

(Ephesians 2:8-9-10) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: (Eph 2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.(Eph 2:10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

(Titus 3:5) Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

(Galatians 3:2) This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Now, how can I add anything to the Finished Work of Christ. Upon Believing on Christ and His payment for 'my sins' , "HOW COULD I ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? Upon believing, "as the Scripture has said..John 7:38" I was given the Holy Spirit, which is God's assurance that I am His Child. IT IS HIS FINISHED WORK!

(2Corinthians 4:7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

This Treasure, God's Holy Spirit, is His redemption of anyone who Believes on Christ! This is what God says in His Word, and "not what some church or denomination says!" He again says:

(Ephesians 1:13-14) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,(Eph 1:14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of His glory.

Salvation came first, by the Holy Spirit, yet you tell me that Baptism is a part of that? The Word of God, tells me something different! Who am I to believe, "you or God?"

Once again, Salvation is by Grace, through Faith! God in response send His Holy Spirit, to seal that Beliver, that the Power in us, may be of Him and not ourselves. You trust in His Finished Word, or you trust in your own works! You cannot have it both ways, for the Word says:

(Romans 11:6) And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

The "FINSHED WORK OF CHRIST" is complete! How can you add anything to salvation? How can you add works [baptism] to Grace, and say it is a part of Salvation? You CAN'T!

I simply ask you, for a moment, to get a piece of paper. Draw a Large Cross on it, from the top to the Bottom. On the LH side, add in your doctrine of Baptism as 'what you understand to be a part of Salvation'. Oh the Rh side, take these scriptures, and then Compare them to the Finished Work of Christ!

You will have to conclude, that God's Word holds all authority above any church or denomination, as Christ said, "IT IS WRITTEN..Matt 4:4" Then rethink you position. Ask God if what He said in His Word, is the Truth? [John 17:17] Thank you!







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 Thank you, Tim.
  BunnyDale
 does one need to be baptised to be saved (?)
  Toeknee
 Hi, Toeknee! We are living the most ...
  JCrichton
 Perhaps we could include "Feet Washing,...
  ROGER459
 Hi, ROGER459! I guess that you have a...
  JCrichton
 Please dont' politely "Slander Me?" a...
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 "Perhaps we could include "Feet Washin...
  JCrichton
 You still are avoiding the Point in Ques...
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  jelkins
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  ROGER459
 To answer your question “how did [I] r...
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  JCrichton
 GOOD SIDESTEP! I simply asked you for a ...
  ROGER459
 Hi, ROGER! I cannot be any clearer th...
  JCrichton
 IT IS WRITTEN..Luke 4:4 (Ephesians 2:...
  ROGER459
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  JCrichton
 Hi there, Toeknee. I am sure this has...
  DocTrinsograce
 Greetings Doc! This is not intended a...
  Morant61
 Thank you, Tim.  It is beneficial to wre...
  DocTrinsograce
 Greetings Doc! Thanks for the respons...
  Morant61
 Hi, Tim... Thank you for the encourageme...
  DocTrinsograce
 In case you are interested, Wycliffe tra...
  DocTrinsograce
 I'm sure by now you know you're going ...
  Rowdy
 Please look in 1Corinthians 12:13 and Ro...
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 There is a multitude of several million ...
  Rowdy
 No, Water Baptism does Not Save! Perhaps...
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 It seems you've completely skipped over...
  Rowdy
 Water Baptism "Cannot Save Anyone!" Pe...
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  Rowdy
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  ROGER459
 I notice that you don't have any direct...
  Rowdy
 (1Pe 3:21)  The like figure whereunto ev...
  ROGER459
 Copied for reference: 2 Chron 12:13 T...
  Rowdy
 Born of the water means? (?)
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 Verses where water alone means baptism? (?)
  DocTrinsograce
 Born from above: spirit or Spirit? (?)
  Ray
 Water alone means baptism? (Question 2) (?)
  DocTrinsograce
 In the CONTEXT of John chapters. 3 and 4 (?)
  Dalcent
  The experience is it of water / faith? (?)
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  The experience is it of water / faith? (?)
  renee_ransdell@yahoo.com
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