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1 | does one need to be baptised to be saved | John 3:5 | JCrichton | 130972 | ||
Hi, ROGER! Perhaps it is you who are doing the "Side Step": "We are living the most "politically correct," and "anti-establishment" era that ever existed... Scripture is being challenged by both atheists and "Christians" alike... some even disregarding Jesus' own Word: In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!" Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. (John 3:3-5) Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. But John tried to deter him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?" Jesus replied, "Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness." Then John consented. (Matthew 3:13-15) All the people, even the tax collectors, when they heard Jesus' words, acknowledged that God's way was right, because they had been baptized by John. But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John. (Luke 7:29-30) Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." (Matthew 28:19-20) Baptism is not in itself salvation, but we are commanded by Christ, the second Person of God, to be baptized--how any disciple of Christ can believe and teach otherwise is beyond me! We are called to be God's servants... a servant cannot pick and choose which commands to obey, which commands to circumvent, and which commands to abolish altogether! Are we greater than the Lamb of God--He who was pure and for our sake suffered and died on the Cross? As the Son of man, Jesus obeyed the Father to the end (death on the Cross), how can He, being the Only Begotten Son, be obligated to fulfill the Father's Will while humanity, mere mortal beings, be allow obey or disobey at will? Jesus' could not have been clearer on the subject of baptism: "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit." Am I suggesting that God is limited to our symbolic gestures (circumcision, sacrifices, holocausts, baptism...)? Decidedly not! This is why Jesus could tell one of the men being crucified along side of Him that on that very day he would be with Him (Jesus) in Paradise! (Luke 23:39-43)" In His discourse, in Luke 7:24-35, Jesus states (verse 30): "But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John." Is God purpose that we call Him Abba/ABBA and we are free to dispense with all/any Command that we, with our keen wisdom, deem superfluous? Was not Jesus reproaching the Pharisees and experts in the Law because they chose not to obey God's Command that they repent from their rebelliousness and be baptized by John? My friend, I hope that this clarifies the issue on baptism: Am I equating baptism to salvation? NOT! Am I encouraging people to pick and choose which Command they desire to honor? NOT! Am I clarifying that it was Jesus Himself that gave the Command to baptize the world? EXCEEDINGLY, YES! Am I ordering you to accept Jesus' Command? NEGATIVE! You are free to accept Christ's Word as the final answer--conversely, you are free to reject Christ's Word! I cannot make it any clearer than this: Salvation is not about picking and choosing but about faithful obedience to God who has revealed Himself through His Holy Scripture: "...go and make disciples... baptizing them..." (Matthew 28:19) God Bless! Angel |
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2 | does one need to be baptised to be saved | John 3:5 | ROGER459 | 131043 | ||
GOOD SIDESTEP! I simply asked you for a simple Yes or No to the question, "Does one have to be Water Baptized to Be Saved?" Please, Once Again, answer the question? Please post your Yes or No? Thank you! | ||||||
3 | does one need to be baptised to be saved | John 3:5 | JCrichton | 131093 | ||
Hi, ROGER! I cannot be any clearer than this: ...Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. (John 3:3-5) It is Jesus’ own Word that tells you that we must be baptized in order to enter into the Kingdom of God! How you choose to interpret "water" (tears, flood, embryonic fluid, evolutionists’ ooze, or any other symbolic measure) is your prerogative... Scripture speak about water baptism and baptism in the Holy Spirit (I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ’The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’--John 1:33); neither baptism is optional and both are consequential to our salvation (not my words, Christ’s own words: Luke 7:24-35). Are you seeking a short-cut to salvation? Ignoring Christ's Command, whenever it pleases us, is not a sign of humility and obedience to Christ. I cannot convince you to accept water baptism as part of your visible acceptance of Christ as your Lord and Savior (Savior means He that brings Salvation)... that is an issue that you must take to the Lord! God Bless! Angel |
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4 | does one need to be baptised to be saved | John 3:5 | ROGER459 | 131101 | ||
IT IS WRITTEN..Luke 4:4 (Ephesians 2:8-9-10) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: (Eph 2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.(Eph 2:10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. (Titus 3:5) Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; (Galatians 3:2) This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Now, how can I add anything to the Finished Work of Christ. Upon Believing on Christ and His payment for 'my sins' , "HOW COULD I ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? Upon believing, "as the Scripture has said..John 7:38" I was given the Holy Spirit, which is God's assurance that I am His Child. IT IS HIS FINISHED WORK! (2Corinthians 4:7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. This Treasure, God's Holy Spirit, is His redemption of anyone who Believes on Christ! This is what God says in His Word, and "not what some church or denomination says!" He again says: (Ephesians 1:13-14) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,(Eph 1:14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of His glory. Salvation came first, by the Holy Spirit, yet you tell me that Baptism is a part of that? The Word of God, tells me something different! Who am I to believe, "you or God?" Once again, Salvation is by Grace, through Faith! God in response send His Holy Spirit, to seal that Beliver, that the Power in us, may be of Him and not ourselves. You trust in His Finished Word, or you trust in your own works! You cannot have it both ways, for the Word says: (Romans 11:6) And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. The "FINSHED WORK OF CHRIST" is complete! How can you add anything to salvation? How can you add works [baptism] to Grace, and say it is a part of Salvation? You CAN'T! I simply ask you, for a moment, to get a piece of paper. Draw a Large Cross on it, from the top to the Bottom. On the LH side, add in your doctrine of Baptism as 'what you understand to be a part of Salvation'. Oh the Rh side, take these scriptures, and then Compare them to the Finished Work of Christ! You will have to conclude, that God's Word holds all authority above any church or denomination, as Christ said, "IT IS WRITTEN..Matt 4:4" Then rethink you position. Ask God if what He said in His Word, is the Truth? [John 17:17] Thank you! |
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5 | does one need to be baptised to be saved | John 3:5 | JCrichton | 131168 | ||
Hi, ROGER! All I can say to you is that you do an excellent job in using Scripture to rebuke Jesus' Command to the disciples to go and baptize! (Matthew 28:19; John 3:5; ...But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John.--Luke 7:29-30). Please do not confuse God's Gift of Salvation with God's Commands! Though we cannot do anything to merit salvation--and Jesus has done all that is required--we are Commanded by our Lord Jesus Christ to perform certain functions and to behave in a certain manner; to think that we can hold on to some clause without humble obedience to His Word is to place ourselves in the group which Jesus has admonished: 'It is not anyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?" Then I shall say to them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, all evil doers! (Matthew 7:21-23) Salvation is not mere words or an empty belief system; Salvation is Christ Jesus... He Himself has stated that many will claim to be saved (to be in Him) and He will flatly reject them! It is not enough to know Scripture! As James said we must be doers of the Word! (James 1:22) The best way that we can live the Word is by being obedient to Christ--regardless of how advanced we think we may be in our wisdom and understanding of Scripture! There is nothing I can say to you to bring you to humble obedience of the Word Christ has spoken... hence, there's little to gain in continuing this thread! Please accept my respectful departure from this particular thread exchange. God Bless! Angel |
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