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1 | What is predetermination all about | John 3:16 | hey jesus | 241879 | ||
my question has nothing to do with john 3:16 but I saw no other way to get to ask my real question which is about predetermination or predestination are they only about receiving salvation or something more? | ||||||
2 | What is predetermination all about | John 3:16 | EdB | 241881 | ||
This is a thorny question. It has been argued in the church for hundreds of years. And there is a wide range of opinions and discussion. Do a few searches using the word predestination in the box to the right to get a sample. At one end of the scale there are Christians that hold to the theology of man having Free Will, were man himself determines his eternal destiny. At the other end of the scale is those that believe God has already determined the fate of each of us and what we do does not effect our eternal destiny. And there are probably a thousand positions in between. I myself favor man's free will but there are many on this forum that believe man is predistined to where he will spend eternity. |
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3 | What is predetermination all about | John 3:16 | Beja | 241893 | ||
EdB, I agree with you that that is the spectrum. But to be fair, I have never met a person who would say that "what we do does not effect our eternal destiny." I just don't want the original poster to think that those who disagree with your position would then necessarily think our actions don't matter. Those who believe in God electing individuals to salvation do historically hold that our actions matter and have impact on our eternal destiny. Specifically that we must repent and have faith in Christ to be saved, but more than this as well. Only an extremely small percentage of calvinists have ever held that our actions do not matter. And these are what we call hypercalvinists, there is a huge difference between the two. You may find this position to be inconsistent, I do not find it inconsistent, but even if you deem it to be inconsistent then we must be careful to portray those we disagree with accurately. Then we can proceed to say they are inconsistent. It would be dishonest to smooth out their theology into what we think the implications ought to be and then accuse them of holding teachings which they deny. Specifically, if we think the implications of their theology imply that our actions do not matter, and yet they hold that our actions do matter, we must not accuse them of holding to our imagined implications. That being said, you did not err in your statements. I just want to make sure readers understood that 99 percent of those who hold to election are not on that far end of your spectrum. In Christ, Beja |
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