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NASB | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
Subject: What is predetermination all about |
Bible Note: Doc it appears you are saying that anyone that doesn't read the scriptures as you do are resisting scripture in an attempt to satisfy a preceived need to think we have free will. And you imply you have learned to get beyond that and therefore you are able to read scripture with a clarity that others that stand on the opposite side of the issue of predestination aren't. I agree we aren't sanctified by controversy and more than anything we need unity in the body of Christ. However this issue requires more study than simply reading a few verses that seem to suggest predestination, neglecting other passages that suggest man's free will choice. We must study and rightly divide scripture not seek Scripture to find passages that supports our beliefs in either direction. That is why I said it was a thorny question and one that has been unsettled for hundreds of years. I should have suggestted that instead of seeking an answer from people on a forum like this that have no real accountability to her that she should seek an answer from her pastor. People on both sides of this issue are certain the Holy Spirit has lead them to the truth. They are equally dedicated, faithful, scholars, men and women that have given their entire lives to the study of the Word and seeking the truth of God. I believe all have considered and rejected the conclusion that they reach the choice they did because of a baser instinct or to fill some emotional need. |