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1 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | Beja | 223412 | ||
Inquisitor, Your statements: "The biggest, most powerful reason we SHOULD love God is so we can go to Heaven." "Now God has sent His Son to fulfill a promise God made after closing down that Garden of Eden. He provided the ONLY Way for any human being to go to Heaven and that is done by obeying God's Commandments or His Son's Last Will and Testament which was executed by the Holy Spirit through His Apostles." Sir, you have just forwarded a false gospel. Perhaps you don't realise the implications of what you are saying. We go to heaven by loving God? We go to heaven by obeying his commandments? According to Romans 3:10-18 there is not a one of us who loves God. The things you describe is a result of salvation and regeneration, not the means of salvation! We are NOT saved through our obedience, we are saved through the obediance of Jesus Christ, and the death of Jesus Christ in our place. (2 Cor 5:21, Isaiah 53). God grants us HIS righteousness not from our doing any thing, but purely and solely through faith. (Romans 3:24-26; Romans 4:1-8; Gal 2:15,16; Romans 5:1,2). Please look up these verses and read them carefully. We must understand our utter bankruptcy before God with regards to our own righteousness, and put our faith (TRUST) in nothing we can do but only in that Christ has fulfilled all expectations for us and paid the price required of all our failures. HE is our rightousness before God, and nothing else. Do not mistake the passages in 1 John that explain what will unavoidably follow salvation, and confuse them for things that merit or cause salvation. In Christ, Beja |
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2 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | Inquisitor | 223424 | ||
Dear Beja and BradK, I agree with your responses. Yes of course, we're saved by Grace through Jesus Christ but from where do you think our motivations originate? What does a child do when his/her parents loves that child enough to care for the child and put clothes on his back and all the many other things a parent does? The obvious answer: that child returns the love and most children obey the parents because they want that love to keep on coming. Yes of course, as the child grows he/she learns about the difference of right and wrong and the consequences that flow from each choice. But in its simpliest form, love is the best motivation. When a grown man first hears about God and all the things He has done for mankind, our usual first response is "Why?" Then usually the person finds out about the consequences of NOT obeying God which generates fear of the fires of Hell. Sure I'll agree, a lot of people (maybe even most) might start out obeying God out of fear but then they see others who have matured in the Lord and the joy in their lives. The new christian starts experiencing some of this same joy and learns that loving God is much better than fearing Him. And that's exactly what God wants. Like I mentioned Loving God in the ultimate way like Jesus asked Peter in John 21:17 He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus said to him, “Feed My sheep. and John 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments." Beja and BradK, Does the Lord have to ask you a thrid time to love Him? |
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3 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | BradK | 223426 | ||
Hello inquisitor, Thanks for the reply. I would make the distinction (and emphasize) that love is not the motivation or cause (on our part) that brings us to Christ! 1 John 4:10 says, "...not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (NASB) Once we have beleived on the Lord Jesus Christ, we are motivated by His grace- Titus 2:11 "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men," Titus 2:12 "instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age," Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | Inquisitor | 223427 | ||
BradK, Your Quote: Thanks for the reply. I would make the distinction (and emphasize) that love is not the motivation or cause (on our part) that brings us to Christ! 1 John 4:10 says, "...not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins" (NASB) Once we have beleived on the Lord Jesus Christ, we are motivated by His grace- Titus 2:11 "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men," Titus 2:12 "instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age," It seems to me in my mind, I addressed this subject, at least briefly. Remember I agreed with you. Yes, some of us might be motivated by Grace but it's SO much better to be motivated by Love as implied by Jesus in the verses from my post, repeated below. John 21:17 He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus said to him, “Feed My sheep. and John 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments." A person could say BradK is making "his distinction and emphasizing" on Grace and I'm making mine on Love. Yes, apparently part of God's Love as mentioned in John 3:16 includes the Magnificent and Wonderful Grace as you have stated AND yes, as I mentioned a lot of people are NOT properly motivated to respond to God's Love. Fear is one motivation, probably the most frequent but I still like to think Love is by far a much better motivation. I noticed you didn't reply directly to my quotes from Jesus above. Please tell me what would be your reply to Jesus' Words. God bless you all -- Inquisitor |
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5 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | BradK | 223432 | ||
Hello Inquisitor, First, I'd follow behind brother Beja, in his post #223429. What you initially posted seems to belie a works orientation of salvation? Second, I'm one for brevity. Most of the time I don't address every point simply due to constraints of time:-) Third, I'm feeling a bit of a "cat-and-mouse" type of dialog developing. Correct me if I'm misinterpreting anything. I'm not trying to be disagreeable, but is it necessary that I answer your "quotes from Jesus". What's the point, if I may kindly ask? Fourth, you're welcome to view my User profile if you haven't already. I strongly encourage you to expand on yours- especially if you intend to be a long-term participant. It helps all of us get to know each other better- breaking down the walls of anonimity- and where we're coming from theologically. In all fairness, your is very vague and doesn't tell me a lot:-) For that reason, I'm a little reluctant to answer you. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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