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1 | Created for heaven or hell? | John 3:16 | Makarios | 11287 | ||
Greetings proorizo! I have read your e-mail to Norrie and I have tread this ground before on the Forum. All one would need to do is to look in the Forum's history to see where exactly I stand when concerning the Scriptures that you have cited and the ideas that you are presenting. You have stated, "Where does Scripture say that all are called in the context of "all individuals"? Please re-read 2 Peter 3:9 where it states, "The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for ALL TO COME TO REPENTANCE." You have led me to believe that you subscribe to the belief that only certain individuals are called to repentance and/or salvation. If this is so, then there are also certain individuals who are called to damnation also. So, I ask you, where in Scripture does it say that certain people are called to eternal damnation? Please also see 1 John 2:2, "and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world." Doesn't the word "world" mean "world", as in the entire world? I do believe in election. However, that is where I believe that the similarities in our beliefs ends. Your Brother in Christ, Nolan |
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2 | Created for heaven or hell? | John 3:16 | proorizo | 11295 | ||
Hello again Nolan, To see my thought on how 2 Peter 3:9 is taken out of context when used to say that God wants all, but just simply can't do it for some reason or another, all one would have to do is look into the history of the forum and see my response to this to JVH0212, and see that I would ask you to re-read 2 Peter 3:9 in context. Please read what I have writen there, and then we will interact. So, where does Scripture state that some are called to eternal damnation? (Romans 9:22)If "All to repentance" can mean "all are called", I think "fitted to destruction" can mean "called to eternal damnation". Actually, Scripture states that there is none who seeks for God (Romans 3:11), so I ask you, does "none" mean "none"? The word "kosmos" means orderly arrangement, not every single individual. Why does Jesus say "I pray not for the world" in John 17:9, and doesnt John 12:19 say "the world has gone after Him"? Did the "entire world" run after Him? Apparently not because the individual saying this did not run, he watched others run, right? Let the word world mean what it means in context. Who can say they believe the Bible, yet don't believe in election? It is the form of election that has to be addressed. I geuss my question to you would be, "Is God in bondage to man's will?" Thanks again for your time. Your brother in Christ, proorizo |
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