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1 | Enoch and Elijah didn't see God yet? | John 3:13 | EdB | 232480 | ||
I think the article I quoted addresses your objection very well and I don't see any purpose in rehashing what was said. I would like to add that Hebrews 11:13 (NASB) 13 All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. States ALL which in context would include all the patriarchs previously mentioned including Enoch have died in faith. So somewhere in some time frame Enoch did die. Also Gen 5:23 says Enoch's days were 365 years. It doesn't say 365 on earth and immortal in heaven or even suggests that. While I can understand your objections please re- read the quoted article and see if they don't fully answer (as much as can be answered) them for you. I think they do. |
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2 | Enoch and Elijah didn't see God yet? | John 3:13 | BMyers | 232497 | ||
I find you use of Gen 5:23 interesting. If you note, every other person listed in chapter 5 states that the individual died, with the the exceptation of Enoch. Hebrews 11:5 very clearly states that Enoch did not die. By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased God. (Hebrews 11:5 ESV) Brad |
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3 | Enoch and Elijah didn't see God yet? | John 3:13 | EdB | 232498 | ||
Genesis 5:21-24 (NASB) 21 Enoch lived sixty-five years, and became the father of Methuselah. 22 Then Enoch walked with God three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters. 23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. 24 Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. Hebrews 11:5 (NASB) 5 By faith Enoch was taken up so that he would not see death; AND HE WAS NOT FOUND BECAUSE GOD TOOK HIM UP; for he obtained the witness that before his being taken up he was pleasing to God. Hebrews 11:13 (NASB) 13 All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. John 3:12-13 (NASB) 12 "If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. What does Genesis passage really say? Only that Enoch was not for God took him. Took him where? It does not say. Does it say he never died? No I believe what Gen 5:23 is saying is Enoch didn't die at that time. What does the Hebrew 11:5 passage say? That God took up Enoch so he would not see death. It doesn’t say where God took him up or for how long only that Enoch was taken up so he didn’t die. However the Hebrews 11:13 passage does say ALL of those fore mentioned did eventually die. If we let our understanding of Genesis 5:23 and Hebrew 11:5 mean that Enoch didn’t die and was taken up to God then we have built a contradiction with what our Lord said in John 3:13. That is our choice reexamine our interpretation of Scripture in referrence to these two passages or say YES scripture does contradict itself. So is there a contradiction in scripture or could it be we have interpreted Gen 2:23 and Hebrew 11:5 to mean something they really never said and excluded Enoch from the ALL of Hebrews 11:13? |
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