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1 | Enoch and Elijah didn't see God yet? | John 3:13 | lana | 232477 | ||
Enoch was transferred so as not to see death, which could mean that God put him in a prophetic trance and then terminated his life while he was in the trance so that he would not experience the pangs of death.(Heb 11:5) However, Enoch was not taken to heaven, in view of what Jesus said at John 3:13. So it appears that, as in the case of Moses' body God disposed of Enoch's body, for "he was nowhere to be found." (De 34:5,6) As for Elijah, he ascends in a windstorm to the heavens. Elijah does not die at this time, nor does he go into the invisible spirit realm, but he is transferred to another prophetic assignment. (John 3:13) | ||||||
2 | Enoch and Elijah didn't see God yet? | John 3:13 | BradK | 232478 | ||
Hello lana, You said regarding Enoch, "which could mean that God put him in a prophetic trance and then terminated his life while he was in the trance...". I'm curious as to what leads you to make this conclusion, since it's only speculation?. We don't know exactly where Enoch was taken but may safely assume into the presence of God from Heb 11:5, "By faith Enoch was taken up so that he would not see death; AND HE WAS NOT FOUND BECAUSE GOD TOOK HIM UP; for he obtained the witness that before his being taken up he was pleasing to God." Genesis 5:24 simply says, "Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him."(NASB) Next, it's pure speculation to state, "it appears that, as in the case of Moses' body God disposed of Enoch's body..." How do you know this? Deut. 34:5-6 is clearly speaking of the death of Moses, not Enoch! I'm not sure how you make this leap?! Lastly, it's highly assumptive to infer that Elijah "is transferred to another prophetic assignment."??? John 3:13 says or infers no such thing! Do you have any further scriptural basis for this claim? May I kindly suggest that you speak more carefully when ascertainly things from scripture and that you also avoid making broad, unsupported, speculations or assumptions! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | Enoch and Elijah didn't see God yet? | John 3:13 | lana | 232494 | ||
Hi BradK, You cannot just take one scripture and speculate on it. You have to consider the surrounding text of that scripture and of course supporting scriptures as well in order to come to a logical explanation that makes sense. If you had carefully read my comment, you would have seen that it was backed by scriptures. So getting back to the original question, John 3:13 supports the fact that no man has ascended into heaven accept Jesus Christ who decended from heaven.(John 1: 1,2) |
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4 | Enoch and Elijah didn't see God yet? | John 3:13 | BradK | 232495 | ||
Hi Lana, We're not getting anywhere here! I did read your post carefully which is why I responded with 3 very specific questions regarding statements YOU made! May I suggest you go back and read what I posted and respond accordingly. You've purposefully side-stepped any response by attempting to make this my problem. It's not! You are the one who made the statements, so it's incumbant upon YOU to support and defend them! To date you've made all of 12 posts. Have you read the Terms of Use and About Postings from our host, the Lockman Foundation? If you haven't, I strongly encourage you to please familiarize yourself with them. It will go a long way toward saving both of us from wasting time and space:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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