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1 | The "Prophet".. | John 1:21 | Makarios | 9884 | ||
Blessings Ray! John 1:21 states "Prophet" in the NASB, NKJV and Amplified. In fact, the Amplified states it this way: "They asked him, What then? Are you Elijah? And he said, I am not! Are you the Prophet? And he answered, No! [Deut. 18:15,18; Mal. 4:5.]" Clearly by capitalizing 'Prophet', we see that the priests and Levites are referring to the Messiah when they ask John the Baptist this question.. Even the NIV and HCSB capitalize Prophet here, thus signifying that there is no dispute just how this word in John 1:21 should be presented. Ray, do you have any insights here? Blessings, Nolan! |
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2 | The "Prophet".. | John 1:21 | Makarios | 9886 | ||
Sorry Ray! I did not see your question in time.. Blessings! Nolan |
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3 | The "Prophet".. | John 1:21 | Ray | 9926 | ||
Hi Nolan, That's O.K. We've been looking together about capitalization of words in the Scriptures. I think that it is important to be consistent; but I think different translators have been assigned different books, and they aren't all "on the same page" so to speak. Now that you have seen my questions, what do you think about John 4:19,29? Does the Greek have different words for "a" and "the"? Is the woman at the well perceiving Him as "the" Prophet, a Prophet, or as written in our versions, a prophet? Is she in verse 29 telling the men to "come see a Man",NKJ, or to "come see a man" as in the NASB? In other words, what does she mean by her question, "this is not the Christ, is it? What would be implied by the Greek grammatical structure; is she showing doubt or is she making them think about it? |
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4 | The "Prophet".. | John 1:21 | Makarios | 9936 | ||
Blessings Ray! In John 4:19 and 29, we see Jesus with the Samaritan woman. The Greek word for 'prophet' is present and the articles 'a' and 'the' are implied by the context, which is reflected in all the translations. All of the translations (including the NKJV) have 'prophet' in undercase, which leads me to believe that the woman 'perceived' that He was 'a prophet' because of the extraordinary 'insight' that He revealed to her. The statement is not referring to Deity here, so the word 'prophet' in v. 19 should be, and correctly is kept in lowercase, since it does not refer to Deity. However, the NASB, NKJV and Amplified all capitalize the word "You" in order to fully describe the situation: this Samaritan woman is stating that she 'perceives' the Son of God to be a 'prophet'! :) Jesus confounds the woman even more in vv. 21-24, and then reveals to her that He is the Christ! (v. 26) This, in turn, prompts her to ask the question "Could this be the Christ?" (v.29). I believe that the woman did not yet consider or begin to ascribe Deity to Jesus until she came to this question, "Could this be the Christ?", since she was still uncertain at this point to totally accept this Man's statement about Himself even though He revealed to her 'all that she ever did'.. I believe that this is the reason why the NASB left 'man' in v. 29 as undercase in the woman's statement about this Man, who was the Son of God. However, the NKJV capitalizes it ("Man"), and the Amplified reads like this: "Come, see a Man Who has told me everything that I ever did! Can this be [is not this] the Christ? [Must not this be the Messiah, the Anointed One?]" The Amplified and NKJV clearly have capitalized 'Man' here to further emphasize just who this Man is- which is reflected in her very next sentence, "this is not the Christ, is it?" At this point, she is not totally convinced that Jesus is the Messiah, but she is definitely leaning toward that way! And I believe that this woman's 'shock' or lingering doubt is why 'man' was left uncapitalized in the NASB. The Greek simply implies 'man' here, since there is no pronoun that directly ascribes Deity here, even though it clearly is a reference to Jesus within the context of the passage. This woman may have accepted the fact that Jesus was the Messiah, but did she know that He was, in fact, the Son of God? I believe that this was not so, and she may have only known of Him being the Messiah at this point. So if she was only calling Jesus the Messiah here (and not ascribing to Him any Deity since she did not know that He was the Son of God), then this furthers supports the word 'man' here in v. 29 as being left in lowercase, since she simply did not know of His Divinity as of yet. Good study! Nolan |
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5 | The "Prophet".. | John 1:21 | Ray | 10026 | ||
Hi Nolan, You have referenced Deuteronomy 18:15, 18. Here it speaks of the prophet who was to come according to the NASB and the Prophet who will have "words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him" according to the NKJ. So the question remains; is the expected person going to be Deity or not? Scripture talks of the Expected One. You have quoted the Amplified as talking of the Messiah (the Prophet) as the Annointed One. We have talked about the Ruler that was to come, this Child who was born to us. Is He a messiah? Or is He the Messiah? You have talked about the Son of God being a prophet. I don't think so; if we know Him as the Son of God we must know Him as the Prophet. However, I don't think the fact of His being the Son of God came up in this passage of the woman at the well. But the fact that the Messiah was to be Deity is shown in her statement, "I know that Messiah is coming (He who is called Christ); when that One comes, He will declare all things to us." NASB "(He) will declare all things to us." John4:25. Compare that with Deut 18:19, "And it shall come about that whoever will not listen to My words which He shall speak in (My) name, I Myself will require it of him." Parenthesis mine for comparison. Another comparison which shows that she listened to His words, (see Deut 18:19), is the comparison of John 4:26 and verse 41. "Jesus said to her, "I who speak to you am He."---Many more believed because of His word; and they were saying to the woman, "It is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have heard for ourselves and know that this One is indeed the Savior of the world." We can know Him as the Prophet, because what He has said came about and has come true. See Deut 18:22. He is the One who has the power and the One we should fear and respect. |
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6 | The "Prophet".. | John 1:21 | Makarios | 10050 | ||
Dear Ray, Yes, I agree that the Child and Prophet here is pointing to Jesus Christ who is in every way God Himself! Jesus was THE Prophet, THE Messiah. Any other "Messiah" or "messiah" is a counterfeit, and there are many prophets throughout Scripture. I have not talked about the Son of God in such a way that He is 'a prophet', I have only stated that the Samaritan woman thought that He was a 'prophet' and did not begin to accept the fact that He was the Christ until she asked, "Could this be the Christ?".. I agree with you when you say that you do not believe that the fact of Jesus being the Son of God did not come up at the scene of the woman and the well. She may have believed that He was the Christ, but He did not tell her that He was, in fact, the very Son of God! Yes, you said this, "But the fact that the Messiah was to be Deity is shown in her statement, "I know that Messiah is coming (He who is called Christ); when that One comes, He will declare all things to us." NASB "(He) will declare all things to us." John4:25." I believe that the Jews and Samaritans believed that the Messiah would be the One that came from God to their people, but did they really believe that Messiah would be God Incarnate Himself? Here is the definition that I have for "Messiah": The 'One anointed', appointed and empowered by God through the impartation of His own spirit, to become the Savior of His people. (Hastings' Bible Dictionary) I believe that the people were looking for a Savior (Messiah, or a Deliverer), but they did not have a clue that this would be, in fact, God Himself! This is why the Pharisees and scribes asked John the Baptist if he was the Messiah. John fit every single description that they had of who He would eventually be (He was filled with the Holy Spirit since birth and spoke out against Israel's oppression, gaining a following). But John was only the forerunner, to pave the way for God Himself! The Father sent His one and only Son to be the Messiah of the world! So the woman may have been referring to the Messiah and the Christ as the 'Anointed One', but she did not know that she was speaking to Deity- she came to the conclusion that He was 'a prophet' after He revealed to her 'everything that she had done'; she did not come to the conclusion that this was God Himself.. And He simply told her that He was the Christ. I believe that we know Jesus as the Prophet, the Messiah, and the Son of God- fulfilling all these things as God Himself! Jesus, being Deity Himself, was the only One who could perfectly fill the description of Israel's Messiah, being sent by His Father in heaven, and in turn, sending the Holy Spirit to all who believe in Him. Blessings! Nolan |
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7 | The "Prophet".. | John 1:21 | Ray | 10086 | ||
Hi Nolan, I think that we're on the same page and you are understanding the versions' viewpoints correctly. Thanks for your work there. You write, "I believe that the people were looking for a Savior (Messiah, or a Deliverer), but they did not have a clue that this would be, in fact, God Himself!" I believe that they should have had a clue because His name was to be called, Immanuel, "God with us". They had the scriptures, one of which is Zephaniah 3:15b, "The King of Israel, the (Lord), is in your midst." Compare that however with the words of Jesus in John 18:36, "but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm." But if Pilate were to say his statement here correctly in John, verse 37 should read,"Therefore Pilate said to (Him),'So You are a King?' Jesus answered, "You say correctly that I am a King. For this I have been born..." Parenthesis mine for comparison. Yes, He is the King; the Anointed One. Praise Him all you people now. Know this Truth for yourself. |
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8 | The "Prophet".. | John 1:21 | Makarios | 10109 | ||
You're welcome, Ray! :) I liked your Scripture in Zephaniah, its a good that is rarely used or quoted from.. Yes, He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords! Here's one of my favorite verses in the Entire Bible (Revelation 4:8)... “HOLY, HOLY, HOLY IS THE LORD GOD, THE ALMIGHTY, WHO WAS AND WHO IS AND WHO IS TO COME.” Amen! |
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