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1 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | MJH | 211632 | ||
Doc, Tim Hegg is anything but evasive. Quite the contrary, he's very up front with what he believes and he has written a lot. No closet faith statement there :-) Anyway, we've been down this road before, but I just can't seem to let it go. Hey, I'm Dutch, it goes with the territory. Of course when you quote Scripture, I am only going to agree whole heartedly. You might even add the word MUCH before better. It is after all a MUCH better covenant! You are most certainly aware that the New Covenant is spelled out in Jeremiah. And while there are other promises which are apart of this covenant, the main one we speak of generally is the Law written on the heart. Paul speaks about it a lot. When the Spirit writes the Torah on the heart, you’re a member of the family of God, a part of the covenant assembly and assured a place in the World to Come. The Old Covenant is the Law still written on stone. Same law, different place. When something is external and not a part of you, it is simply rules and regulations. I’m guessing you’ve seen it in the churches. Members who attend, but they simply go through the motions of faith, but it isn’t there on their hearts. To them, these Christian things are simply rules to follow. Do the right things and say the right words and you’ll look spiritual. But looks are deceiving. The more you know them, the more you realize they are simply “playing by the rules.” My wife was really into the “Christian” thing. Now she is really struggling with faith. I can’t count the number of times I hear her say to me, “Oh, that’s one of those “rules” you Christians have to follow.” (This doesn’t have anything to do with Torah.) We’ve been in traditional Christian churches since we married over 12 years ago. Her beef is with these good churches. And they really are good churches despite their flaws. But right now all she sees are the flaws because she was taught the “rules.” Pray this much at these times. Read the Bible this much and volunteer that often. Smile and never admit problems or struggles, because we are Christians and we are all just fine. Oh, and those people are going to Hell to burn forever, aren’t we so much better than them.” You get the drift. The point is, even so called Christians can fail to have the Law written on their heart; love, joy, peace, etc… (My wife is struggling, but I see it as a good struggle, because on the other side is genuine faith…which see has, but when things don’t happen the way people have taught you they would, it tends to shatter false beliefs and that is always painful. God is patient.) ...so much the more also Jesus has become the guarantee of a BETTER covenant. (Hebrews 7:22 NASB) This section of Hebrews if so fascinating when you understand why the priest needed to do what they did. and how drawing near to God in the Tabernacle occurred when God dwelt among the Israelites in the wilderness. I have absolutely fallen in love with this book. I’ve spent several months studying this book and Leviticus this past season, and find it to be truly a marvel. I’d love more than ever to teach it, but I don’t have the mastery of it quite yet. Thanks for your faithfulness to this forum. You have a gift. It would drive me nuts! MJH PS – I’m wondering why you’re opposed to following the Law. What about it is bad to do? |
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2 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | stjohn | 211637 | ||
Hi MJH Here's another to add the three reasons that Bradk has given not to put ourselves BACK under the law. because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; Romans 3:20-24 Did you get that? being JUSTIFIDE as a GIFT by His GRACE in the REDEMTION which is in CHRIST JESUS and another You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain--if indeed it was in vain? So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Even so Abraham BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS. Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU." So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer. For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM." Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, "THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." Gal 3:1-11 My question is, do you abide by ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM-?? Really-?? because if you don't abide be ALL the things written in the book of the law to perfome them, then you are as it is written CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT-!! Well, what is it? Do you? Can you honestly say that you abide by ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM-?? Because if you think you can, then you better do it ALL-!! |
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3 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | MJH | 211664 | ||
See my post to BradK.... I don't disagree with anything that you said. Most of it is Scripture so that is somewhat easy. If you are trying to be justified apart from Faith, then the curse of the Law (many many curses for those who disobey listed) would apply. But now there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. The Galatians were not being yelled at by Paul because they had the gull to follow the Laws of God. They were being yelled at because they were accepting the idea that they needed to go through this ritual conversion in order to get saved...to be IN the group. If salvation comes through works of the law, then where is faith? It is gone, and then we are without hope. I desire to follow the Law because I love Jesus and want to obey His commandments. While not perfectly, I desire to live as he would desire, and trust in him that he paid the penalty for my transgressions. In the world to come I will be welcomed on his account. I think you're confusing me with someone who thinks you need to follow the Law in order to be saved. Nothing could be further from the truth. MJH |
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4 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | RangerRick | 211667 | ||
If you would permit me to interject one point and it is this: The 10 commandments given to Moses on Mt. Horeb was fulfilled completely by 2 laws given by Jesus and he deleted 1. The remaining 9 are fulfilled by Love the Lord with all thy heart mind sould and body and Love thy neighbor as thyself. If yo look at the 9 mosaic laws they are still covered by the 2 of Jesus. If you love me the way you love yourself you would not steal from me, seduce my wife, kill me etc. etc. and if you love god then you would have no other god before him. We are now dealing with a lot more commands than 10. I believe there are over 335 commands to Christians in the New Testament and Jesus expects you to follow them as best you can through the power of the Holy Spirit. There are no free rides. There was an old contract and now there is a new contract but this time he sent us a helper to be able to live it. Baby steps. | ||||||
5 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | MJH | 211677 | ||
How to do you reconcile that statement with Deut 12:32? And that verse should be the first verse of Chapter 13 which goes on to state "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, [Jesus did this] and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, [it did] . . . “ Chapter 13 describes just what you said. So if Jesus deleted 1 as you say, and added several, then we seem to have a serious problem. He would be classifies as a false prophet. Beyond that, it seems odd that any law would need to be deleted. What would the purpose be for God to change his mind about 1 or several laws? And the Mosaic Law has far more than 10 specific laws. Also, the law to love God and love thy neighbor is from the Mosaic Law which Jesus quotes, not new laws. All during the first century there has been among the sages the question, "How many laws sum up the whole of the Law?" They quote the prophets reducing the summation of the law from 613 to 10 down to 1. The last “one law” that summed up the whole was "the righteous shall live by faith." Jesus of course summed it up in the two most common in his day, and Peter and Paul summed them up to just Love. Of course one needs to ask, “What does it mean to Love?” and then you go backwards right into spelling out the Law again. In short, just because the Law can be summed up in two laws, one law, or even one word, does not mean the laws stop. (Mat 5:17-19) MJH |
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6 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | stjohn | 211680 | ||
I think you may be confusing the moral law with the rabbinacle law. Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. Rom 14:4-5 Again, Titus 3:9 |
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7 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | MJH | 211683 | ||
Nope, it's all right in there in the Bible as I quoted. MJH |
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8 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | RangerRick | 211686 | ||
I beleive it was Jesus that told us not to observe days or am I mistaken and the point of Jesus being a false prophet is obsurd. He is,was and always will be God He can erase anything he wants. Would you pull your donkey out of a pit on the sabboth? | ||||||
9 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | RangerRick | 211688 | ||
I am in big trouble because as I sit here eating wheat thins I remember: I did not wash my hands!!! I'm bound for Hell. That's it. I quit. |
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10 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | MJH | 211692 | ||
By the way, welcome to the forum. (I think I noticed your new?) You'll have to find the text that says you need to wash you hands before eating..... Anyway, I never said if you fail to follow a command you go to hell. We are saved not by our ability to follow commands, but by Faith in Jesus. We follow commands because we love him. So don't quite :-) your hands are fine...I hope. MJH |
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11 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | RangerRick | 211694 | ||
Whewww.....feeling saved again. I am only new to this forum, I am really an old man. | ||||||
12 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | RangerRick | 211696 | ||
Ya know if you were leasing an apartment from me for a year and at the end of the year I changed the lease terms amount of paymen, method of payment, you have to now pay for your own electricity and you sign up....why on earth would you continue to constantly read the 2 leases simultaneously to try to understand the new contract. The old contract is "HISTORY" and the new contract is prevalent. You are confusing yourself. The bible is divided dispensationaly and that is where the Jews/ Jahova's and other sects miss the boat. I like the old testament for it's history (5 Books) other than that i am glad I live in this dispensation. I personnally don't like snakes that come out of flames or being swallowed by the ground. I suppose God changed his mind on that punishment...figured he would run out of people before long I suppose. | ||||||
13 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | skccab | 211699 | ||
Shalom Ranger, You said "...I suppose God changed his mind on that punishment..." So God isn't the same yesterday, today and forever? Heb. 13:8 BTW, Welcome to the Forum. Cheri |
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14 | Gospels are OT books? | John 1:1 | RangerRick | 211700 | ||
God repented several times with Abraham concerning Sodom and with Moses concerning the children of Isreal. | ||||||