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1 | EdB, Did He die on Thursday? | John 19:31 | EdB | 8088 | ||
Steve I agree, you are right on. I believe the confusion comes over the term Sabbath. I believe it was assumed to mean the weekly sabbath rather than the Passover Sabbath. For Jesus to be crucified on the Friday (Passover) the Jews would have had to violate the Passover Sabbath, that day carries the same restrictions as a weekly Sabbath. Further more Jesus would not have been able to fulfill the Passover Lamb requirement, as the Passover Lamb is to be killed at or before twilight of begining of the Passover calendar day or 6:00 pm Thrusday. I think there is also confusion over Jesus celebrating Passover the night before. There are two ways around that. First some Jews climbed to the highest place on the temple to spot the new moon (the begining of the month) others would wait until they could see it from the entrance to temple. This resulted in a day's difference. So many times Passover was celebrated two days. One for the early crowd (they were sure they were right) and once for the Orthodox crowd (they were sure they were right). The other solution the Jews made an exception clause to passover day, if one was traveling or had important business they could and often did celebrate Passover a day early. This also played into how they choose which way to spot the moon. |
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2 | EdB, Did He die on Thursday? | John 19:31 | Makarios | 8090 | ||
This post can't be taken seriously, EdB... Tell me, did you ever attend a Good Friday Service in the United Brethren or United Methodist Church? Did you learn anything about the chronology of the days and what they symbolized at the Good Friday Service? Do you realize that you are entirely refuting the whole Scriptural basis and tradition of Good Friday? If you are willing to do without this part of the Bible and bend its truth, then what else in the Bible are you willing to forsake? | ||||||
3 | EdB, Did He die on Thursday? | John 19:31 | EdB | 8116 | ||
Nolan then don’t take it seriously! Yes I did attend Good Friday service and Maundy Thursday services all my life and still do. I also know many of the Pastors that minister those services felt Jesus most likely was crucified on Thursday but don’t care to make waves. If you want to get serious and look at the evidence I can do that to. Check Leviticus chapter 23 and where you see the word 'Holy Convocation' substitute word 'Sabbath'. Trust me on this it’s the same, read verse 3. Now read verse 4-8 and what do you see Passover day is a Holy Convocation or Sabbath. What is the day after? Another Sabbath. For the Jews to crucify Jesus on Friday they would have been breaking the Sabbath they said they didn’t want to break in John 19:31. Notice also it is called a High Sabbath. Ask any Jew which Sabbath is the High Sabbath he will response the 'Shabbat Gadol' or 'Shabbaton' which all are names for the Passover Sabbath. Ask him also the name of the day before Passover and he will tell you it is called 'The' Preparation day. The days before weekly Sabbaths are also preparations days but are they are not known as 'The' Preparation day. You will have to trust me on this or ask a Jew, I have interviewed many on the subject. Let’s count Jewish days. They run from 6pm to 6pm. Trust me on this or read Genesis 1:5 and/or talk to a Jew. You say Jesus died some time after 3Pm Friday 3pm – 6pm Friday - 1 partial day 6pm – 6am Saturday or the Sabbath night-1 night 6am – 6pm Saturday or the Sabbath day - 1 day 6pm – 6am Sunday night - 1 night 6am – resurrection - 1 partial day Let’s add them up 2 partial days and 1 full day okay we will call that 3 days. But I only see 2 nights any way I count it to the Jew there was only 2 nights. We are short 1 night. Let’s look at Jesus the fulfillment of the spring feast. We know Jesus was considered the Passover Lamb. The Passover lamb was selected on Nissan the 10 th Exodus 12:3. For Jesus to fulfill the Christology, Jesus would had to be chosen that day which I believe he was by his triumphant entry and the people crying Hosanna 'save us' on what we call Palm Sunday. If he entered Jerusalem on Nissan the 10 th the Passover Lamb had to be killed at Twilight of the 14 th of Nissan or 4 days later. Jesus died at twilight on Nissan the 14 th which would be Thursday. Jesus’ resurrection fulfilled the feast of the wave offering and Jesus then fulfilled the feast of first fruits Lev 23:15-22 with Pentecost. You see he fulfilled all the spring or 'planting' feast and the only thing that remains are the fall or 'harvest' feast which I believe Jesus will fulfill with His return. Now do one last thing talk to a Messianic Jew, I haven’t found one that will buy the story that Jesus was crucified on Friday. Reading the account in the New Testament and knowing Jewish law they naturally assume it was Thursday or 'the' Preparation day before the Passover Sabbath I’m sure you will produce many books and commentaries that show me wrong and I assure you I can produce an equal number that agree with me. I have discussed and debated this subject for a few years. If you don’t want to consider conjecture that is equally okay since it has no effect on either of our salvations. Whatever you do or however you respond please bear in mine I have not attacked you in any way. I have not insulted your intelligence, belittled you or questioned your salvation. Please give me the same consideration. |
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4 | EdB, Did He die on Thursday? | John 19:31 | Makarios | 8117 | ||
Ok EdB, I have several Jewish friends, and I will take you up on this! I will approach a good friend of mine and one who is considerably older than I am, a Messianic Jew. I will ask him if he will answer a question for me and I will see what he says. I am not guaranteed a response, since he only takes a few questions at a time and considers carefully just who asks him and which questions that he answers. I will ask him this question, when he is feeling 'up to it', and I will post his response here if he gives an answer concerning what day the crucifixion of Jesus actually happened on. I'm not sure how much time will take for him to give me an answer. But I do know that his answer, if he states which day, will be full of experience and wisdom, no doubt! He is very knowledgable in all the Jewish customs, ways of life, etc.. And I learned most of what I know about the Jewish way of life from him. Stay tuned.. :) |
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5 | EdB, Did He die on Thursday? | John 19:31 | EdB | 8121 | ||
Nolan he sounds like a good friend to have. Yes please do ask him as I would be very interested in his reply also. | ||||||
6 | EdB, Did He die on Thursday? | John 19:31 | Makarios | 8124 | ||
He is! I'll visit him probably on Tuesday and give you the answer. Either way, I'm sure that I can trust his judgment. He usually delights in seeing 'young people' like myself. :) | ||||||