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1 | God the Son as a confession of faith | John 17:22 | Emmaus | 126307 | ||
Leslie N, I am the only regularly participating Catholic on this iste as far as I know. But I am planning a Traiathalon for all the members who will be required to swim the Tiber, cycle around the Vatican and run the road to Rome. (Just kidding). Here is what I believe about the Trinity. "The dogma of the Holy Trinity 253 The Trinity is One. We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the "consubstantial Trinity". The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire: "The Father is that which the Son is, the Son that which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, i.e. by nature one God." In the words of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), "Each of the persons is that supreme reality, viz., the divine substance, essence or nature." 254 The divine persons are really distinct from one another. "God is one but not solitary." "Father", "Son", "Holy Spirit" are not simply names designating modalities of the divine being, for they are really distinct from one another: "He is not the Father who is the Son, nor is the Son he who is the Father, nor is the Holy Spirit he who is the Father or the Son." They are distinct from one another in their relations of origin: "It is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds." The divine Unity is Triune. 255 The divine persons are relative to one another. Because it does not divide the divine unity, the real distinction of the persons from one another resides solely in the relationships which relate them to one another: "In the relational names of the persons the Father is related to the Son, the Son to the Father, and the Holy Spirit to both. While they are called three persons in view of their relations, we believe in one nature or substance." Indeed "everything (in them) is one where there is no opposition of relationship." "Because of that unity the Father is wholly in the Son and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Son is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Son." 256 St. Gregory of Nazianzus, also called "the Theologian", entrusts this summary of Trinitarian faith to the catechumens of Constantinople: Above all guard for me this great deposit of faith for which I live and fight, which I want to take with me as a companion, and which makes me bear all evils and despise all pleasures: I mean the profession of faith in the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. I entrust it to you today. By it I am soon going to plunge you into water and raise you up from it. I give it to you as the companion and patron of your whole life. I give you but one divinity and power, existing one in three, and containing the three in a distinct way. Divinity without disparity of substance or nature, without superior degree that raises up or inferior degree that casts down. . . the infinite co-naturality of three infinites. Each person considered in himself is entirely God. . . the three considered together. . . I have not even begun to think of unity when the Trinity bathes me in its splendor. I have not even begun to think of the Trinity when unity grasps me. . ." You can read it here in a larger context. http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p2.htm#III Welcome to the forum Emmaus |
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2 | God the Son as a confession of faith | John 17:22 | Leslie N | 126359 | ||
Emmaus, Jesus said to Peter, you are a rock, and upon this rock I will build my church, He doesnot say churches. In another part of scripture it says the Church is the body of Christ (can't remember where)there is only 1 body of Christ. To tell you the truth, and this might upset some christians and I apologise, this is just my view, there should only be 1 church, with 1 standard, with 1 purpose based on that rock (Peter). I don't think I will see it in my lifetime, but what a glorious church it will be. | ||||||
3 | God the Son as a confession of faith | John 17:22 | TheFinalSQL | 126646 | ||
"this is just my view, there should only be 1 church, with 1 standard, with 1 purpose based on that rock (Peter)" That rock is not Peter. That rock is Jesus Christ. Matt 16:18 I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. rock in this verse comes from the Greek petra Eph 4:15, 16 but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love. Praise the Lord! Norm |
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