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1 | You are saying that our command to...? | John 13:34 | EdB | 128216 | ||
Your trying hard to walk me into a corner and I'm not going to play your silly game. I resent your twisting what I say. I said what John Lennon said "all you need is love" was wrong. Not the command to love. I do expect an apology! As I have already said love should be the motivator, the emotion the attitude but all of this without Jesus your arguement is but straw. This is why Jesus also said if you love me you will obey my commandments. John 14:15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments. That is why the fruit of spirit contains both attitudes and actions. Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [23] gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. James said I will show you my faith by my works. James 2:18 But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. Love alone does nothing to fulfill this verse Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. Love alone does not meet this requirement. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. We must have belief. While love can motivate and love can compile love is not in itself able to accomplish our salvation. It took Jesus' death upon the cross. Love took Him to the cross, but His death paid the price. So all we need is Jesus Therefore anyone that says all we need is love is as dead wrong as John Lennon. He missed Jesus and if you keep pressing the point it would seem you missed it too. Without Jesus you have nothing. Without Jesus all the love in the world will do nothing for your eternity. If you can't see that I wonder why your on a Christian forum? |
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2 | You are saying that our command to...? | John 13:34 | Xerxes | 128235 | ||
Whoa now, EdB. Stultis did not, at any time, say we did not need Jesus. He's talking about Christian lifestyle, and how, according to scripture, to live up to the standard the Lord has set for us. He has been asking you for an example of a commandment that is not summed up by "Love your neighbor as yourself," as according to Romans 13:8-10. You are saying that there are commandments that are not summed up by "Love your neighbor as yourself" in direct conflict with the scripture. Now, I saw what Stultis saw. He points out that Paul says "Love your neighbor as yourself" fulfills the law. You said that it does not, but is simply an emotion, and equated his stance on Roman 13:8-10 as being "All you need is love," which you then equated to being the same "junk" John Lennon got from his Guru. Romans 13:8-10 says that in your Christian life, love fulfills the law, because there is no commandment we have that is not summed up by the statement "Love your neighbor as yourself." You are saying that that statement is equivalent to John Lennon's "Junk." If I am not understanding, please clarify, but I do not think he has twisted anything. Your statements were clear, as were your correlations. The commandment of Christ was to "love one another as he loved us," and Romans mirrors this commandment, giving us the further information that it is all we need in our Christian walk. If you are saying that Stultis' stance is humanism, which he took from Paul, then you are saying that Paul's stance is humanism, which HE got from Christ. Hence, you are calling the commandment of Christ "junk" and humanism. Again, if I am misunderstanding what you are trying to express, then please accept my sincerest apologies, and by all means explain. If, however, I have properly understood what you were trying to express, then you need to stop being nasty to Stultis if the mistake was your own. He is plenty Christian. His knowledge of scripture that I have been able to observe speaks to his dedication, and despite some hasty responses made to him in anger or indignation, his responses have not seemed to me to be loveless. He's trying to have a discussion, and nothing more. With all intended best intentions, Xerxes |
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3 | You are saying that our command to...? | John 13:34 | EdB | 128243 | ||
Xerxes First what I said was love is an emotion, a motivator, an attitude. Love in itself does nothing. If a man says he loves a women and does nothing, nothing is exactly what he will have. I can love my neighbor to death but if he was in the water drowning and unless I was willing to risk all and reach out my hand to save him my love would be nothing. We see it all the time in marriages two people love each other, but they also happen to love themselves more and the marriage dissolves. I'm saying love is important, love is essential but unless we put action to that love it nothing more than a word. God has called us to holiness, obedience, service, faith and action. we can sit around all day and love but until we put legs to our love it serves no purpose. I never meant to equate his stance of Romans 13 to anything John Lennon said. If that is the understanding you got then I apologize for that misunderstanding. What I meant and believe I did say is this. To say all you need is love is totally absurd. You first need Jesus Christ. John Lennon in his song "All you need is Love" tried to sell the idea that love would cure the ills of the world. Nothing but the Blood of Jesus cures the ills of this world. For someone anyone to come to a forum and make a statement that love is all you need is patently wrong. It was never my intention to say or imply any concept set down by Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit was Humanist. I said incorrectly applying that principal to negate any other requirement but love was humanist. I fail to understand why what I'm saying is such a mystery to you or anyone else. Love must be put into action before it serves it's purpose. Once again 1 John 3:18 says it best. If this hasn't cleared up my position on this then I suspect I will be unable to clear it up and therefore it is best I remain silent on this issue which I will do unless someone else tries to slander me. And this is not an implication in any way that Xerxes attempted to slander me. EdB |
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4 | Is this an adequate interpretation of..? | John 13:34 | Stultis the Fool | 128309 | ||
EdB, thank you for the various replies. I believe you confuse love with lies when you qualify your position with statements such as: "First what I said was love is an emotion, a motivator, an attitude. Love in itself does nothing. If a man says he loves a women and does nothing, nothing is exactly what he will have." "I can love my neighbor to death but if he was in the water drowning and unless I was willing to risk all and reach out my hand to save him my love would be nothing." "We see it all the time in marriages two people love each other, but they also happen to love themselves more and the marriage dissolves." If I am claiming to love, and I behave in these methods you have described, I do not love at all, and I am a liar. Is this an adequate interpretation of what you wish to express? If I behave as prescribed in 1 John 3:18 "My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth," will I avoid the wickedness you described earlier? Consider the words in John 2:21 "But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." EdB, if this is not the case, please tell me what wickedness will be wrought by someone who loves "in deed and in truth." I look forward to your reply. |
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5 | Is this an adequate interpretation of..? | John 13:34 | Searcher56 | 128459 | ||
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