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1 | Are we bringers of peace or division? | Luke 12:51 | Reformer Joe | 36029 | ||
I understand the context of the passages in question, Brian. I think that you have too quickly dismissed (or misunderstood) my point. For example, Jesus is indeed referring to the bringing of the gospel and how it will cause division, even within families. And Jesus is the one bringing this division, in His own words. You are also right about the context of Romans 12:18, but this particular verse is still talking about living with peace with all men as far as it depends on you. Please support your statement that one can replace "peace" in John 14:27 with "gift of salvation." You write: 'So, your last sentence, "How can we be both promoters of peace and present a gospel which has always served to divide people (as indeed Jesus Christ claimed to do) is wrong.' Actually, this was a question, not a sentence. I want the members of the forum to explore these passages with me to see if we can come to consensus on how we are to be peacemakers among men and at the same time proclaim a divisive gospel to men. Of course there is a biblical reconciliation of these two commands, but I think that it is important to highlight this in an age where people go to one extreme (using the gospel as some would use a machine gun) or the other (saying that we should not proclaim the gospel at all because it causes "unnecessary" division and strife). --Joe! |
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2 | Are we bringers of peace or division? | Luke 12:51 | charis | 36034 | ||
Dear Joe! Greetings in the name of Jesus! Tis late Sunday eve for me, but I would like to put forth a thought on this topic: "For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart." Hebrews 4:12 NASB. Brother I do see that we must reconcile these two outwardly different commands. I think that the answer is that the Bible, in conjunction with the Holy Spirit is able to divide the spirit (made in the image of God) and the soul (the emotions, often influenced by the flesh) of men, which can bring peace when correctly discerned. The tension between these two parts of man (as lamented by Paul) is often the cause of people not even able to be honest with themselves, much less with others. With that (somewhat fuzzy) thought, I shall sleep on it, allowing others to comment. I, too, think this is an interesting area to explore! Blessings in Christ Jesus, charis |
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