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1 | Do all little ones believe? | Matt 18:6 | Cyclist | 66966 | ||
Charis, I will clap my hands and make a joyous noise to the Lord! I will sng to the Lord with a joyful voice! I will give joyful thanksgiving to Jesus Christ for dying for my sins! Praise the name of the Lord! I plead with you dear forum members, bear with me, this is a long post. First of all Charis, thank you for the mild rebuke. I have received correction from the Lord, hopefully as a good son. I simply cannot participate in this forum that means so much to me as a young boy who tosses a firecracker in the midst of a crowd, and then, stands back watching for the calamity it may have created. Second, thanks to you who participated in this thread with charis and myself(cwade, rextar, Tim Moran, jlpangilinam, One) and, mbooker for your prayers for our dear brother in Christ Tim Moran. Third, before I share with you the conclusion that come to or my "opinion", let me say that I have prayerfully chosen these words, for three reasons. One, we are studying and discussing the word of the Almighty Lord GOD. Second, I must say that if I, even unintentionally, stepped out of the guidelines of this forum and be asked to leave, that I would weep bitterly for days. Third, I do not like to waste other member's time, nor space on this forum, with any of my possibly empty or vain words. Well, finally, to the point! I will start with this verse: Rom 11:34 For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR? So then Charis I am as you and others are in understanding His ways. The original question "Do all little ones believe?" was from Matt chapter 18. From the commentaries that you posted, I can see that the majority of the commentators agree that Jesus was using the child as an example for hose who believe in Him. With this I agree. But as is always the case here on the forum, we(I) switched gears and started discussing the salvation of infants/babies. I'm not complaining, just stating a fact. I have this to say about the salvation of infants/babies. Mark 2:17 And hearing this, Jesus *said to them, "It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners." I don't read anything in any of the four gospels where Jesus spent time specifically instructing children or infants/babies to repent. The only "children" accounts we read are those where Jesus healed them, raised them from the dead, cast demons out of them, blessed them, and let them come to him when the adults tried to forbid them. Where the children in need of the one true great physician? I would think that if children were in need of the physician, instead of reading that Jesus spent time with publicans and sinners, we would be reading that Jesus was at the orphanages or the children work camps. The other thing that we read about children is this: Matt 21:15 But when the chief priests and the scribes saw the wonderful things that He had done, and the children who were shouting in the temple, "Hosanna to the Son of David," they became indignant Matt 21:16 and said to Him, "Do You hear what these children are saying?" And Jesus *said to them, "Yes; have you never read, 'OUT OF THE MOUTH OF INFANTS AND NURSING BABIES YOU HAVE PREPARED PRAISE FOR YOURSELF'?" Were these children of the believers only? or were there children of the unbelievers praising the King of kings? We (I) simply do not know. This post is getting long enough, so here is just one more thing. John 20:21 So Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you; as the Father has sent Me, I also send you." John 20:22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them and *said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 20:23 "If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained." So does this mean that if I being a believer in Christ, redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, and filled with the Holy Spirit, that I, may forgive the sins of a baby/infant or child and their sins are forgiven since I've read in the postings on this thread that all are born into sin? (continued in the next post) |
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2 | Do all little ones believe? | Matt 18:6 | charis | 67013 | ||
Dear Cyclist, Greetings in the name of Jesus! Brother, a little fireworks is normal on a public forum. :-) Indeed, switching gears is also very normal. What began as a fairly straightforward question became a somewhat emotional issue. I have read carefully your posts, and looked into the Scriptures you used in reference. I continue to find little convincing argument for the innocence and-or blanket release of children from the sin of Adam. I base my beliefs on the lack of evidence, and my observation of the rebellious nature of children. I've said this same thing several times, so many will want to pin a 'broken record' label on me. "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." Psalm 51:5 NASB. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." John 3:6 NASB. "Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; The rod of discipline will remove it far from him." Proverbs 22:15 NASB. Yet again, I say that I have no desire to 'place' babies in hell. I simply find little concrete evidence they are in heaven. God is just. I rest in His justice. Mark 2:17 - We are saved from our sin, from the nature that curses us, not our actions. Therefore, we are saved by grace through faith, not because we decided to repent. Matthew 21:15 - I doubt these children were 'infants and babes.' They were most probably the children of believers. We DON'T know. So don't presume. John 20:23 - WE don't forgive (to salvation) anyone. James 4:17 - Children are aware they are sinning. They know when they take another chold's toy that it is not right. They know to displease the one who feeds them is not right. In any case, many adults 'sin in ignorance' and are accountable. This is the sin of foolishness. 2 Timothy 2:19 - Amen! Friend, it is late. Good night and God bless. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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3 | Do all little ones believe? | Matt 18:6 | Cyclist | 67042 | ||
charis, I will glorify the Lord of lords who is Christ Jesus! I will glorify the lamd of God who is Christ Jesus! I will glorify our Savior who is Christ Jesus! I will glorify Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior with all my heart, soul, mind, strength, and all that is within me! Thanks again for this discussion! You have helped me to grow in the word of the Lord our God. You have made your points clear on all of these scriptures. I especially like the point that you made on John 20:23 - AMEN! Through sharing with you on this subject, I am convinced that there is nothing that you have found in the scriptures that tells us that all infants, babies, or children are saved. Well, bless you brother! And again, thank you! I do look forward to sharing posts again, on a different subject. I think that when someone does a "quick search" they will discover that almost everything to be said (written)on this has been said, as far as this forum is concerned anyway. So to steal a line from you, if I may "And everyone said - AMEN!" I will continue to pray for you and your ministry. Thank you for staying up later than you might normally have to respond to my post. Cyclist I will bless the Lord at all times! His praise shall continually be in my mouth! |
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4 | Do all little ones believe? | Matt 18:6 | Cyclist | 67045 | ||
Forum members, Praise the name of the Lord! Sorry for the triple post! I don't know what happened? Cyclist I will bless the Lord at all times! His praise shall continually be in my mouth! |
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