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1 | How Holy Is Marriage? | Matt 16:6 | KcabmI4 | 213613 | ||
Dear Val Maby you missed it in the (KJ) so Iam posting these from the (NASB) Iam also going to add some Brackets for you where I quoted thes verses. Num.14:18 (New American Standard Bible) 18- 'The LORD is slow to anger and abundant in lovingkindness, forgiving iniquity and transgression; :-(but He will by no means clear the guilty,)-: visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generations.' Exodus 34:7 (New American Standard Bible) 7- who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet :-(He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished,)-: visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations." You then go on to say .” Notice in Psalms 52 David was forgiven, his sin was covered, and in verse five “You forgave the guilt of my sin.” This scripture does not sound correct does it? Psalm 52:5 (New American Standard Bible) 5- But God will break you down forever;He will snatch you up and tear you away from your tent, And uproot you from the land of the living. Selah. That is ok I looked for the right one and found the one you really meant. But we are not knowing when Psalm 32 was written. It could be before or after the time in question. Psalm 32:5 5- I acknowledged my sin to You,And my iniquity I did not hide;I said, " I will confess my transgressions to the LORD";And You forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah. You then come to Psalm 51 "In Psalms 51 David was washed and made whiter than snow, verse seven." Psalm 51 (New American Standard Bible) A Contrite Sinner's Prayer for Pardon. 7- Purify me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow. You should take the time and go back to the Psalm 51. You will then be seeing all the way from vs.1 to the last vs. are all the pleadings for mercy. Iam sure that God did forgive David. It says he would in Num.14:18 and 34:7. Your parigraph about David I do not dispute He is a most revered man He was a man after God’s own heart David’s son with Bathsheba was chosen to be King – Solomon God made an everlasting covenant with David. Jesus is referred to as being in the lineage of David. But these are also true David committed adultery with Bathsheba David murdered Uriah David's first son with Bathsheba died because of the (SINS of the FATHER) otherwise "HE" would have been the next King This is another covenant made by God with David. Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house I will take thy wives before thine eyes and give them unto thy neighbour and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. The child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. You are saying "The consequences of sin touched David’s family his remaining life." You are sure right with that statement according to the story we are discussing. "but each man/women was held responsible for their choices and decisions" Can you verify this statement with scripture? You finish with the quote I gave from Ex.34:7 But you add "The YLT leaves out “the guilty”. "I believe that makes a big difference." Exodus 34:7 (Young's Literal Translation) 7- keeping kindness for thousands, taking away iniquity, and transgression, and sin, and not entirely acquitting, charging iniquity of fathers on children, and on children's children, on a third [generation], and on a fourth.' Just the leaving out "the guilty" does not change the fact of who is paying for the sin "not the father." He is punished by having to watch everyone else pay for his sin. Iam sorry if the translation I used did not meat up to your standards. But guilt was used in the bible I used and there would not be anyone paying for sin if there was not anyone "GUILTY." But that is ok with me . Go ahead and leave out GUILT. It took you 3 different bibles to get there. Tell me is the (YLT) your bible of prefferance? Or is it just the one you use when all else fails? Sincerely, KcabmI4 |
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2 | How Holy Is Marriage? | Matt 16:6 | Val | 213620 | ||
Dear Kcam: In regard to Number 14:18 reading the entire chapter I find that the context shows that the guilty are not believers, not saved, not counted righteous as Hebrews says. Num.14:18 (New American Standard Bible) 18- 'The LORD is slow to anger and abundant in lovingkindness, forgiving iniquity and transgression; :-(but He will by no means clear the guilty,)-: visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generations.' The Lord himself says that these people except for Joshua and Caleb were unbelievers. Moses interceded for them and the Lord did not wipe them out but he did not allow them to enter the land. They wandered forty years in the desert. Numbers 14:1-28 Look at the words rebellious, grumbling, unbelievers, rejecting the Lord. Relate Exodus 34:6-7 to 20:5-6. God had told the sons of Israel not to worship or serve idols because He is a jealous God, visiting the father’s iniquity on the children, on the third and fourth generations of those who hate Him, but showing lovingkindness to thousands who love Him and keep His commandments. The Lord’s mercy would extend even more to the descendants of righteous people. The contrasting of the phrases “third and fourth” (v. 5) with thousands demonstrates that God’s mercy is greater than His wrath. The lingering effects of righteousness will last far longer than the lingering effects of wickedness.” – The Nelson Study Bible "but each man/women was held responsible for their choices and decisions" Can you verify this statement with scripture? Deuteronomy 24:16, says that everyone is put to death for his own sin. Sorry for the wrong chapter Psalms 52; it is Psalms 32:5 Psalm 32, a wisdom psalm, is also one of the great penitential psalms. It is generally believed that this psalm like Ps. 51 has its origin in David’s response to God following his infamous affair with Bathsheba, 2 Sam. 11. It is one of the marks of the integrity of Scripture that the low points as well as the triumphs of its principal characters are described. The structure of this psalm is as follows: One, a description of blessing, verses 1,2; Two, a report of David’s agony before he confessed his sins, verses 3-5; Three, a lesson to others based on David’s experience with the Lord, verses 6, 7; Four, an oracle from the Lord on righteous living, verses 8,9; Five, concluding praise to the Lord for His mercy, verses 10, 11. – The Nelson Study Bible David, the man after God’s own heart, upon being confronted by Nathan, was deeply grieved and repented and was forgiven. Who else can it be said of in scripture that he was a man after God’s own heart? David loved the Lord and obeyed him. When he sinned and was confronted with that sin, he was deeply grieved and repented and was forgiven. He was also blessed with another child – Solomon. David had many wives and many sons and daughters however God chose this child, a child of David’s and Bathsheba to be the next king. David already had other children. God chose Solomon. Sin is a very serious thing and affects friends and families. Its consequences are still there, however, because of the attitude of David’s heart, God forgave him, restored him and blessed him. Just as he made David clean and made him whiter than snow, God extends that promise to anyone who will come to Him with their sins and seek God’s forgiveness with a broken and contrite heart. We must remember this is not our home, this world, we are only passing through. We, like David, are looking for a city, a heavenly home. Sincerely, Val |
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