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1 | Wearing the clothes of the Priests? | Lev 19:19 | MJH | 193463 | ||
Doc, How do you view: 1) Jesus Zeal for the House of God; both the prophesy and the act of clearing the temple of money changers? 2) The Apostles participating in "The Prayers" in Acts 2, and their "continually" going to the Temple? 3) Paul eager to get back to Jerusalem to participate in the Temple and the feast? 4) Paul participating in sacrificing at the Temple in Acts 21-23. 5) The Text (I am without my Bible right now so I forget the exact reference) where Paul says, "Do not let anyone judge you on account of feasts, new moon, Sabbaths, etc... These things ARE the shadow of Messiah who is the reality." (Some translations add "mere" or place this is the past tense erroneously.) I always appreciate your dedication to knowing God and serving Him on this forum. MJH |
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2 | Wearing the clothes of the Priests? | Lev 19:19 | DocTrinsograce | 193475 | ||
Dear MJH, I'll do my best... 1) Jesus Zeal for the House of God (sic) Per John 2:17, this was a prophetic fulfillment of Psalm 69:9. Reviewing that verse we see David using the phrase "thine house" to refer to the whole worship of God. As Christ's exemplified, we are to be zealous for God's truth (orthodoxy) and commands (orthopraxy). 2) Continually going to the temple for prayers (Acts 2:46) The apostles were careful observers of the Jewish hours of prayer. I see this as a natural expression of Jewish converts in the primitive church. Where else would they go to manifest adoration to and dependence on the Lord? The church was in its very early infancy -- only a matter of months old. Normative Christian worship would be worked out by the apostles over a subsequent period of years. We even see errant practices corrected in the epistles of James and, later, Paul. As a Jew, if I ever visit Jerusalem, I would love to go to the Wailing Wall. As a Christian I'd be forbidden to pray there, at least in an overt way. However, it would be a huge error to imagine that a person's prayers were more efficacious there than in other places! The shekinah now dwells within fleshly temples, it no longer dwells within stony ones. 3) Paul participating in temple feasts. Ditto. 4) Paul participating in sacrifices at the temple. Ditto. However, I'd add, if Paul participated in a sin offering of any sort, then he'd be under far greater blame than that which he accused Peter in Galatians 2:11. Oh my... far worse! 5) The text of Colossians 2:16-17 We needn't worry about the verb tense in verse 17 to properly exegete the passage. Paul was dealing with the error involving Eastern asceticism and mysticism that had crept into the church. Read the subsequent verses, "Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God." (Colossians 2:18-19 ESV) The books of Galatians and Hebrews would be the appropriate places from which to derive a Christian's proper understanding of Judaism. In Him, Doc |
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3 | Wearing the clothes of the Priests? | Lev 19:19 | MJH | 193494 | ||
Doc, Thanks for the response. See my other note about the Acts verses. Colossians 2:16 and on. (I have my Bible now). vs. 16 says “Therefore”, and proceeds to mention four things prescribed by the Torah and says that they ought not to let others Judge them on these things because they are a shadow of things to come, the reality being Jesus. (ie. this isn't a Plato shadow theory. Paul is using the shadow in the since that Jesus casts a shadow, and these things are that shadow.) THEN Paul mentions two things that are taught against in the Torah (worshiping Angels and false humility) and claims these things are "based on human commands and teachings" as opposed to God's commands and teachings. Then he ends it in Chapter 3:2 with, "Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things." The two are here again, heavenly things (ie things from God0 and Earthly things (ie things form man--which would include the "works of the law" that Paul mentions in Galatians") I see the two as separate and not a part of the same line of thinking. Paul is contrasting. I do not see Paul saying that both worship of Angels is bad and following God's appointed times is bad. What do you think? (please disregard my original question that started all of this.) MJH |
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4 | Wearing the clothes of the Priests? | Lev 19:19 | DocTrinsograce | 193520 | ||
Dear MJH, I mean no disrespect, but I think your hope to arrive at a specific conclusions has caused you to interpret this book only in that single light. An inductive study of an epistle, seeking a sound historico-grammatical interpretation (see post #156918), always begins with a set of questions. Who wrote the epistle? When was it written? To whom was it written? Why was it written? The answers to all of these questions, along with context and grammar, influence how we interpret any given passage. After that's done, of course, the conclusions should also balance with other passages of Scripture that discuss the same topic, since the Word is coherent and self-consistent. Therefore, in answer to your question, I think that the verse cannot bear the weight of your interpretation. Again, no disrespect is intended, but this sounds like reading something into a text rather than reading something out of it. Note that I'm not arguing with the correctness of your conclusion (although I don't agree with it). I'm just saying that, in my opinion, if you are to support that conclusion, you'll need to do so from some other text -- preferably one that is speaking directly to the point. In Him, Doc |
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