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1 | leave when violent..? | Mal 2:16 | Ray | 143900 | ||
Hi seedling, Today is "Super Bowl Sunday" here in the USA. I think of that in regard to this thread because after a day of partying and with a few beers (or other drugs) in them, some husbands are prone to become abusive. You have said that one needs to be careful when selecting who to marry. I think that a person who does not drink alchohol or do drugs would be high on the list of good attributes. 1) l Cor 7:10 does indeed say that the wife should not leave. I was surprised that greentwiga said otherwise; yet I am happy that she saw fit to leave a violent situation. As I said in the thread with Sandya on this verse, the marriage covenant is one of life and peace. If one is in danger of her/his life then the covenant is broken, for they do not love their spouse as they love themselves. As your Ephesians reference says, Ephesians 5:26, "Husbands, love your wives just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her;" It is under that condition that the church is subject to Christ and the wives are subject to their husbands. Just as Ephesians 6:1 tells the children to obey their children "in the Lord", so also the wife is subject to her husband as "to the Lord". That is, they are doing the will of God, not as men-pleasers but as slaves of Christ. I see Christ as the Head and the husband as the head of his wife. 1 Corinthians 6:13 says that "the Lord is for the body" and Ephesians 5:23 says that He Himself is "the Savior of the body". That is the love that we are aiming to attain. 2) Eph 6:10, "Finally, be strong in the (Lord)..." 1 Cor 7:19, "...but what matters is the keeping of the commandment of (God). 20 Let each man remain in that condition in which he was called." Malachi 2:5, "(My) covenant with him was one of life and peace..." The parentheses are mine for comparisons. From the heart, Ray |
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2 | leave when violent..? | Mal 2:16 | greentwiga | 143949 | ||
Yes, that is an area we disagree. I use verse 11, not ten to say they can leave if they have to, but can't remarry. If this last desparate act gets the spouse to get healed, the marriage is saved. If he remarries or has sex with another, only then is the person free. I do not see the covenant as broken due to violence. Scripture just does not say that. Staying single or being reconciled is a harder row to hoe, but I have done it and advocate it. Greentwiga |
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3 | leave when violent..? | Mal 2:16 | Ray | 143956 | ||
Hi greentwiga, When I spoke of the covenant being broken I did not mean that the marriage is over and that there should be a divorce. The covenant that I see in Malachi is one of life and peace. The covenant that I see in 1 Corinthians is that the husband and wife "consent to live" together. This "consent" is one of hearty approval; being pleased to dwell with each other. This is the convenant that was broken. Until they are pleased to dwell together in life and peace; until they are reconciled, they should be separated. From the heart, Ray |
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