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1 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Jon 2:2 | azurelaw | 211906 | ||
Dear John, Wow, yes, an intriguing and interesting question indeed! However, I tend to hold the position that Jonah did not die but at the blink of or to the point of death (v5). I see v7 was pretty clear in describing his state of emergency. Concerning the concept of shoel, could this be a metaphor Jonah used in his poem to indicate a total separation from God? By the way, with the idea that "sea" implies God's judgment (Rev 21:1, there is no longer any sea) according to the Jewish thinking, Jonah considered God's judgment and punishment on him made him foretaste the shadow of eternal death that scares him so much (remember that he asked for death again in 4:3). More insights would be appreciated and thanks for the good question. Shalom Azure |
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2 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Jon 2:2 | stjohn | 211914 | ||
Azure, Look at the very strong languedge in v6 "the earth with its bars closed behind me forever. Yet You have brought up my life from the pit and corruption" Forever? And again, Our Lord saying "Just as he was" not "sorta like he was" but "JUST as he was" "so shall I be three days in the belly on the eirth" refreing to His being dead for three days. John |
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3 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Jon 2:2 | azurelaw | 211920 | ||
Dear John, I see your point. I am still digging. However, Jonah chapter 2 is a poem / psalm which employs much from the book of Psalm. So, in consideration of the genre of the scripture, it would be helpful for us to understand better. Some citations from "How to read the Bible from all its worth" - by Fee and Stuart 1/ ...Hebrew poetry, by its very nature, was addressed, as it were, to the mind through the heart (i.e. much of the language is intentionally emotive). 2/ ...the Psalms are not just any kind of poems; they are musical poems. A musical poem cannot be read in the same way that an epistle or a narrative or a section of law can be read. It is intended to appeal to be emotions, to evoke feelings rather than propositional thinking, and to stimulate a response on the part of the individual that goes beyond a mere cognitive understanding of certain facts. 3/ ...the vocabulary of poetry is purposefuly metaphorical. Thus one must take care to look for the intent of the metapphor...It is likewise important that one noe press metaphors or take them literally. Digging...digging...:-) Shalom Azure |
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4 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Jon 2:2 | stjohn | 211922 | ||
Dear Azure, Interesting thoughts, I've been studying those citations and something came to mind, that, though we shouldn't take metaphor literally, we can still be pretty well assured, (with some semblance of certainty) of their meaning. For instance using the end of the verse Matt 12:40b Jesus says: "so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Now we know (at liaet we are pretty sure) He was not literally three days and nights in the heart of the earth, (though some may take it that way) and we do know His body was in the tomb, so we can say with some certainty that it is not literal. But nonetheless we can also say with some confidence that He (Jesus) is referring to His being dead. So the verses in Jonah that are inferring his being dead, wouldn't necessarily be breaking any rules in rendering them that way; as they appear to be saying, he, (Jonah) is also, dead. And these rules that we can follow in this rendering are already shown to us, and in a sense, precedent has been set in Matt 12:40b I'm sure we can find many examples like this with just a little bit of poking around. Anyway just some thoughts. God bless John |
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5 | Did Jonah die in the belly of the fish? | Jon 2:2 | Val | 211924 | ||
John my friend, is this the verse that convinces you that Jonah was dead? Your sister in Christ - Val |
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