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1 | What does "saw" mean? | Ex 24:10 | Talmid of Yeshua Ha Maschiach | 191751 | ||
Hi there, I did a bit of study on this question of yours and pulled up my Hebrew Old Testament (Tanach) on E-Sword and I found an interesting usage of words. It would seem that they saw Jesus (Yeshua) not actually the LORD (ADONAI). I come to this conclusion because of one simple character that comes before the character for Elohim. "ayth" is literally entity, a corporeal being. So, I am persuaded that they saw Yeshua, God in the flesh, which is not a sin and therefore Moshe could still ask to see the face of YHWH, because he had not previously seen it. As John Gill has written, "And they saw the God of Israel,.... The Targum of Jonathan restrains this to Nadab and Abihu whereas it is doubtless true of Moses and Aaron, and the seventy elders, who all saw him, and who were witnesses to the people that it was a divine Person that spoke to Moses, and delivered the laws unto him, to be observed by them; which seems to be the reason of their being called up, and favoured with this sight which must not be understood as of anything criminal in them, as if they curiously looked and pried to see something they should not, for which they deserved some sort of punishment, as the Targum intimates; but of a privilege, and a very high one they were favoured with: and this sight they had was not by a vision of prophecy, or with the eyes of their understanding, but corporeally; they saw the Son of God, the God of Israel, in an human form, as a pledge and presage of his future incarnation, who is the Angel that spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai, as Stephen says, and the Lord that was among the angels there, who afterwards became incarnate, and having done his work on earth, ascended on high, Acts 7:38." May ADONAI bless you in your studies, Talmid (Num 6:24-26) |
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2 | IS ELOHEIM JESUS? | Ex 24:10 | don lyles | 191752 | ||
I need to read your answer several more times for it to fully sink in. God in Ex 24:9-11 is Eloheim. Are you saying Eloheim is Jesus? Not arguing, and a quick read of Gen 1 compare with John 1 may back this argument up, but we are very close to heresy. |
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3 | IS ELOHEIM JESUS? | Ex 24:10 | Talmid of Yeshua Ha Maschiach | 191757 | ||
I am not saying that Elohim is Yeshua, Elohim is most certainly the Triune God. Consisting of God the Father (YHWH), God the Son (Yeshua), and God the Spirit (Ruach HaKodesh). Elohim seems to be used in many places to describe the parts of God (e.g. Gen 1:1-2) where in conjunction with Ruach, Elohim is used to speak of God the Spirit. It would appear, to me anyhow, that whenever "ayth" is used in conjunction with Elohim, God the Son is being referred to. I am no great Hebrew scholar, but I love to delve deeper into God's Word. Just restating, I believe in this passage they saw God the Son, one part of Elohim. Another place where Elohim is used for God in man form is Gen 32:28,30. It is interesting to note, that after this encounter with Elohim, Moshe is called by GOD, but the word used for GOD in the scriptures from this point on is YHWH, God the Father. May ADONAI bless you in your studies, Talmid (Num 6:24-26) |
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4 | IS ELOHEIM JESUS? | Ex 24:10 | rabban | 191774 | ||
Hi Talmid, The first important thing to note is that YHWH equals ELOHIM. The terms are interchangeable. The plural form elohim is a plural of intensity depicting God's greatness and majesty. It is used with a singular verb. YHWH is God's Name. As you know the watchword of Israel was, 'Hear, O Israel, YHWH our God, YHWH is One.' (Deuteronomy 6.5) YHWH is thus the One Name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit (Matthew 28.19). It is the name given to Jesus in His manhood when He was raised and restored to the glory which He had had with the Father before the world was (John 17.5)and 'given the Name above every Name' which is of course YHWH. He was declared to be KURIOS (which is the Greek term used for YHWH). Yeshua is the name given to God's Son when He came into the world as man. Strictly it does not apply to the pre-incarnate Son although we can do so loosely. His name Yeshua was given to Him when He was born a man (Matthew 1.21). So we cannot and must not say that YHWH equals the Father. Yeshua is also YHWH. The reason from the change from YHWH to Elohim and back was for a twofold reason. 1). Because Moses wanted to bring out that it was the God of Israel that they were seeing before them and having a communion meal with, and secondly in order to bring out the difference between when YHWH was dealing with Moses, and when God was dealing with Israel (compare similarly Exod. 19.24 with 20.1; 20.20, 21 with 20.22). It is very important to be careful when dealing with the question of the Triune God With all best wishes Rabban The Spirit is both the Spirit of YHWH and the Spirit of Elohim. As I have pointed out ayth (eth) is the sign of the definite object. In English we can tell the subject from the object by word order, but in Hebrew that is not so. The object may come before the verb. So it is depicted by putting ayth in front of it. It indicates nothing more than that. It certainly does not indicate that the reference is to God the Son. Prior to His icarnation Jesus did not have a corporeal body. |
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