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1 | 'Conscientious Objection' Biblical? | Ex 20:13 | RElderCascade | 16426 | ||
Humanism values life arbitrarily rather than based on the value and purpose God grants life. If God didn't exist or if he were some kind of an impersonal being, then human life would not rise above the value that humans themselves give it. I seem to have observed that C.O.'s (conscientious objectors) claim Biblical grounds for their preference. This is sometimes what an unbelieving c.o. does as well. C.O.'s seem to often read intent into their oppostion that just doesn't square with their convictions. If I support a war in response to some activity (such as the evil done in New York, Washington, and near Pittsburg) it doesn't mean that I like war or even that I think war is ever good! Either assertion is often leveled by c.o.'s. When man fell into sin in the garden, who believes God liked that result? I believe almost no-one thinks that God takes any kind of satisfaction in the condition of man in sin. Similarly, my dear c.o.'s I may favor defending myself from evil perpetrated on me, but I in no way like it or ever think it is good. It is merely the lesser of the evils available to me to choose, so I choose defense. What does the Bible say? Do c.o.'s have it straight from the Bible that any execution of even a self-defense is tanamount to murder? If is is then we should capitulate and come their side. But if not, I think they are free to be c.o.'s and simply stop saying we should be also. In other words I think it is okay to be a conscientious objector, but they must merely see their view as a preference and not a Biblical absolute if it is not. Murder is a sin and it is a very different thing than what Paul clealy articulated in Romans 13. But you need to get the whole context of that chapter especially chap. 12 and 14. The state is given the authority (by God) to rule or govern society. We as individuals are not expected to nor are we given the authority to rule or govern society, unless our society has recognized us for that responsibility. In our society that is by election, or appointment -- something quite similar in all societies, but that method of recognition is not the point, the calling to such places of responsibility is the point. God calls people everywhere to such places of authority and we are to support them and pray for them. Otherwise we are in jeapardy of disobeying God's Holy word especially Romans 13. |
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2 | 'Conscientious Objection' Biblical? | Ex 20:13 | EdB | 16429 | ||
I agree with you entirely except that Humanist view of human life tends to be exalted above God's view. In fact many humanist believe they are "god". Their contention is there is good in everyone we just need to find it develop and bring it out. They completely reject that we are born in sin destined to death and hell. To a humanist life is far more important than salvation, righteousness or God. To a humanist life is above the law, and therefore the law be it biblical law or governmental law must conform to that belief. |
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3 | 'Conscientious Objection' Biblical? | Ex 20:13 | Brian.g | 16600 | ||
Ed I understand your thoughts on Humanists. Do you feel that people who oppose the death penalty are all Humanists, or can a Christian be opposed to the death penalty, also. Brian |
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4 | 'Conscientious Objection' Biblical? | Ex 20:13 | EdB | 16616 | ||
I think they can be Christians that have mistakenly accepted a humanist position. That position then puts them in conflict with the word of God. God clearly said that if "thou shall not kill" and if you do murder someone, you have then forfeited your life and are to be executed. If you justify the sanctity of life by saying you shall not kill youI think they can be Christians that have mistakenly accepted a humanist position. That position then puts them in conflict with the word of God. God clearly said that if "thou shall not kill" and if you do murder someone, you have then forfeited your life and are to be executed. If you justify the sanctity of life by saying you shall not kill you have to accept the punishment. If you justify the sanctity of life by some other value system you have just applied a humanist value, and have entered into humanist reasoning. When you enter into humanist reasoning you open the door which allow justifying various types of murder we see so common today. Murder where there was “extenuating circumstances”, “justifiable murder” (yea your guilty but the person deserved to die), “abortion”, and etc. Now I’m not saying all people that are against the death penalty accepts any these, they may and hopefully do stand strong against each one. The fact remains that by ignoring God’s definitions and values as it pertains to life and the penalties for one who violate them, they have opened the door that allowed humanist reasoning to come in and the results are what I speak about above. They are then by definition a humanist. have to accept the punishment. If you justify the sanctity of life by some other value system you have just applied a humanist value, and have entered into humanist reasoning. | ||||||