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1 | 'Conscientious Objection' Biblical? | Ex 20:13 | EdB | 16357 | ||
Sir Pent in the case of believers I think we must depend on God for our protection, and as believers we should not kill to defend ourselves from people that would persecute us for our belief. However I think we should be prepared to defend ourselves from people that would kill us to they could then rape our children and wives. Crime carries a penalty. God gave us a definition of those crimes and the penalties for those crimes in the Pentateuch. Society and governments have accepted those definitions to establish what was acceptable within their rule. God stated if someone stole something and was caught the thief had to repay 7 fold. Our society changed that to say you go to jail, and we now have jails full of thieves. God stated if you took someone’s life you forfeited yours, society changed that and we have punks getting their kicks by killing people in drive by shootings. No one wants a criminal to go free and everyone is looking for the answer to crime in America. Does anyone think it might be found in God’s word? Go to an Islamic nation the crime for stealing is forfeiture of a hand. If your caught a second time they cut off the other hand. Walk the streets of many of these countries, you will have to hunt far and wide to find someone with a missing hand. Then walk the streets and try to find someone with both hands cut off. Am I advocating Islamic law? No! But think about it, if a thief was forced into chain gang labor until he worked off 7 fold what he stole how many thieve would we have? If these punks that get their kicks out of drive by shooting saw their friends tired and convicted and executed for killing someone how many would be prone to do it themselves? God supplied the answers to law, government and fairly applying the law, we have chosen to say it is wrong or doesn’t apply today. Why don’t we just take the Old Testament tear it out and say it doesn’t apply. And since the New Testament says nothing about rape, murder, extortion, and etc. Let’s just say they are unacceptable and the perpetuator has time out until he decides to act in an acceptable manner. I’m sure you think that is absurd but is in any more absurd than for us to think we have a better idea of crime and crime prevention than God. |
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2 | 'Conscientious Objection' Biblical? | Ex 20:13 | Sir Pent | 16613 | ||
Dear EdB, You said at the end of your post that you were sure that I would find it absurd to tear out the Old Testament and just put criminals on "time out" for a while. You are completely correct, I do think that's absurd. You also referred to the ineptness of our justice system, as compared to ones in other countries. I would have to completely agree with you again. I do not think that our justice system is as good as it could be. I also think that there should be tougher punishments for crimes. Although specifics would have to be worked out, I think that having criminals work to repay for damages or theft, could be a great idea. In fact, although it seems barbaric, I also see some logic behind other countries laws requiring castration for sex offenders. That would be both a deterrant to first crimes as well as making repeat offenses impossible. Going into more detail as to how the justice system should punish specific crimes should probably be a seperate thread. But I just wanted to let you know that just because I am against killing fellow human beings, doesn't mean that I am against there being serious consequences of crime. |
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3 | 'Conscientious Objection' Biblical? | Ex 20:13 | EdB | 16618 | ||
Praise God for that! | ||||||