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1 | 'Conscientious Objection' Biblical? | Ex 20:13 | Morant61 | 16648 | ||
Greetings Sir! Thanks for your response my friend! Overall, I think a view similar to yours is most likely. I was simply trying to point out that it is a very difficult passage. Since it is such a debatable passage, I would be reluctant to build a major belief upon it. For instance, one problem with saying that it refers to all the dead is the point that you made concerning those spirits who were alive during the time of Noah. Why does he restrict it to just them? Why not all dead? I don't know! :-0 Concerning the possibility that their might be spirits imprisoned somewhere now, Jude 6 does support that possibilty. It says, "And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day." 2 Peter 2:4 also supports this concept, " For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;" Apparently, some angels were so wicked that God imprisoned them. One of the newer views of the "prison" passages is that Christ went to were these angels are imprisoned and proclaimed victory to them. You mentioned 2 Cor. 10:3-4! This seems to be a reference to spiritual warfare, not necessarily an indication that war is no longer valid. Whether or not we totally agree on this issue, we can definitely agree that we need more peace in this world. That peace will have to come from Christians, since man in his depravity in incapable of achieving it. Your Brother in Christ (and fellow trekkie), Tim Moran |
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2 | 'Conscientious Objection' Biblical? | Ex 20:13 | Sir Pent | 16653 | ||
Dear Tim, Thanks for pointing out those refs about angels in prison. I would have to agree with you that I suppose there are some there. Overall, it looks like we'll just have to agree to disagree on the subject of the war and the death penalty. It's too bad though, because if one doesn't see that things have changed from the Old to New Testament in that area, then one has to come up with another explanation for why a loving and just God would command his people to go kill entire cities (including women and children). I of course have heard many explanations for this, and there's probably another thread on that already. But they all seem either arbitrary (which of course, God is entitled to be if He wants to) or Machievellian (sp?) in that "the ends justified the means" (preserving the purity of Israel justified the extermination of the contaminants in the land). However, that's a little outside the scope of this thread. When it all comes down to it, we do agree that we need more peace in the world, and the Jesus is the only way to get there completely. Live long and prosper :) |
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