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1 | opinions on daniel 2:43? | Dan 2:43 | believer 2004 | 133375 | ||
I would like to know what other people think of daniel 2:43. | ||||||
2 | opinions on daniel 2:43? | Dan 2:43 | srbaegon | 133376 | ||
Hello believer 2004, Daniel is explaining that this final kingdom cannot stand because it is not held firmly together. Iron and clay mix like oil and water--they can be in the same place, but they cannot join. Steve |
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3 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | believer 2004 | 133378 | ||
I understand that the kingdom will not stand, but I have a question about what the SEED actually is. In all other uses of the Bible, it is talking about mixing two different seeds together,(mingled) Do you think this could be something not human mixing with human seed? Misty |
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4 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | BradK | 133386 | ||
Hi believer, Welcome to the Forum! Could you be a bit more specific on your question? In my mind, "seed" is the most obvious reference to Christ. "And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel." (Gen. 3:15) "Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ." ( Gal. 3:16) I hope this helps, BradK |
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5 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | Reighnskye | 133390 | ||
Believer, Are you suggesting from this verse, that angelic/demonic seed again mixes with the human race, even well after the period of the flood of Noah? The former intermingling of celestials and humankind necessitated the mass genocide incurred by the great flood, without which the flood would not have been necessary, but for the corruptions in the human bloodline. - Genesis 6 1 Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. 5 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 The LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them." (NAS95) - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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6 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | mark d seyler | 133396 | ||
Hi Reighnskye, "the nephilim were on the earth in those days and also afterward". Also afterward. See also referrences to Anakim and others. As it was in the days of Noah. . . "the seed of the serpent" Gen 3:15. Who is this seed of the serpent? Dan. 2:43 - who is it that can mingle with the seed of man without cleaving, but that which is not the seed of man? Does not the Bible suggest that there will be, for lack of a better word, demon-spawn living among us? Does this all mean they would neccessarily be giants? Perhaps they would be more subtle. Its a very strange subject to say the least, but these things are all written in the Bible. Love in Christ, Mark |
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7 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | Reighnskye | 133400 | ||
Mark, Was this seed intermingling with the human race after the days of Noah? If it can be said that Noah and his family were pure-blood humans (which I believe to be the case), then we may infer that the celestial/human crossbreeds were fully removed from the earth during the flood. The gene pool of the human species got a new start and celestial blood had not intermingled with our kind since. Certainly the introduction of angel-spawn or demon-spawn, within the gene pool of the human race, would unsettle the war between the angels and the demons, swaying such a war over to one side or the other. I suggest that this type of crossbreeding does not enhance us, but rather diminishes us, as a species. The blood becomes weakened and not strengthened. A purebreed human race will become greater in it's future immortal state than what the angelic/demonic celestials ever were. The corruption of the human gene pool would, however, thwart the future dominance of an immortal humanity, causing either the angels or the demons to hold permament sway. Scripture infers that these celestial races will yet be subjected in the immortal regeneration of humanity. No greater or lesser angel is completely pure. - 1 Corinthians 6 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? (NAS95) Hebrews 2 6 But one has testified somewhere, saying, "WHAT IS MAN, THAT YOU REMEMBER HIM? OR THE SON OF MAN, THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HIM? 7 "YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS; YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR, AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS; 8 YOU HAVE PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET." For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him. 9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone. (NAS95) Job 4 18 'He puts no trust even in His servants; And against His angels He charges error. (NAS95) Job 15 15 "Behold, He puts no trust in His holy ones, And the heavens are not pure in His sight; (NAS95) - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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8 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | mark d seyler | 133453 | ||
Hi Reighnskye, “Was this seed intermingling with the human race after the days of Noah?” Where the Bible says “there were nephilim in the earth in those days, and afterward”, I would have to say yes, that must be. The stories of anakim and similar people as the Israelites were coming to the promised land seem to be examples of this. “If it can be said that Noah and his family were pure-blood humans (which I believe to be the case)” This is what I had always assumed, but in fact, the Bible only says that Noah was perfect in his generations. Anything beyond this is our own speculation. We simply are not told concerning his wife, or his sons and their wives. And again, the scripture says “and afterward”. The existance of angel/human hybrids did not end with the flood. I believe that Noah’s wife was pure, and at least one of his son’s wives, because I believe Jesus came through a pure bloodline through Mary, however, I do not know scripture that says this. But this leads me to think that there may have continued to be intermingling, just not the worldwide contamination as before the flood. I agree completely that the intruduction of hybrids are a perversion of what God created, and those responsible with receive severe punishment. (See II Peter, and Jude) However, I believe that in the resurrection, all of the redeemed will have the heavenly body not affected by any perversions. My thinking is that the spirits produced from this crossbreeding are not subject to salvation, although again, I have no scripture to support that. My thinking is that these are the demons so often described in the Bible as desparately wanting to inhabit people’s bodies. As far as the war between God and those who are evil, God will win, no matter what weapons are formed against Him. The future dominance of redeemed humanity can only come through God’s work in us, and not by any mechination of man or angel. Unredeemed humanity will not, of course, have any dominance no matter what they do. Thank you for responding. You gave me some interesting things to think about. Love in Christ, Mark |
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9 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | Reighnskye | 133489 | ||
Mark, You said: "My thinking is that the spirits produced from this crossbreeding are not subject to salvation, although again, I have no scripture to support that." - If human beings are redeemable, and yet the fallen angels were not redeemable, then what of human/angelic hybrids? Are they therefore redeemable or irredeemable? God forbid that hybrids should walk the earth today. - Blessings, Reighsnkye |
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10 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | believer 2004 | 133560 | ||
Reighsnkye, Read Matt. 15:13. There is obviously things here that are not God's doing. I know he creates all things, but satan tries to copy everything that He does. satan was responsible for the hybrids, although God let him do it for HIS own purposes. It also says that they (fallen angels)await in chains of darkness for JUDGEMENT.2 Pet. 2:4-6 |
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11 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | Reighnskye | 133596 | ||
Believer, How are you interpreting this scripture? What has this verse got to do with human/demon hybrids or clones? Also, clones and hybrids are too entirely different things, yet you're using this verse to refer to both. Here's the verse you used: Matthew 15 13 But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. (NAS95) - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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12 | is the seed non-human? | Dan 2:43 | believer 2004 | 133660 | ||
Reighnskye, I know that clones and hybrids are two different things. What I said was that it is a possibility that it could be either. Meaning basically anything that isn't human. I used the scripture in Matt. to make the point that there ARE things that He didn't put here. I just think to assume this scripture is talking about government alone is reading something into it that isn't there. Do you read the Bible by symbolizing, or literally? Misty |
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