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1 | Saved or not ? | Jer 17:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 188874 | ||
Dear justme, Jeremiah 17:9,10: 9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? 10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. Romans 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. You ask the question like you believe you can really tell who is saved and who isn’t. The truth is, you can’t, for you cannot possibly know another’s heart, that is an attribute of God and we are simply not capable. We are called to preach the Gospel, to every creature, not just those who we may think are lost, because again in part, we know not their heart. Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 2Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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2 | Saved or not ? | Jer 17:9 | justme | 189019 | ||
WOS: I believe those who are genuinely followers of Jesus Christ (saved) do show they are born again. Even if I don't know ones heart, in my opinion if there is no fruits of the Spirit then there is reason to assume that person needs Jesus. Perhaps it is better to present Christ several times and to make sure they have heard the good news of Jesus. Making an assumption that a person is saved without some indication lived out in their life, would be a serious miastake. That is why you might have come to the conclusion that you did. My intentions are always ment to ne kind, respectfull, and made in Christian love. Blessings. justme |
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3 | Saved or not ? | Jer 17:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 189029 | ||
But be careful justme, because what you might perceive to be genuine fruits of the spirit, can be magnificent knockoffs. And what you perceive unacceptable may very well be what God intended. Just words of caution I guess. And for the record, I didn't come to any conclusions Brother, I was simply responding the best I good to the question presented. If I gave you the wrong impression, I truly do apologize, I meant nothing ill or judgmental. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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4 | Saved or not ? | Jer 17:9 | Hank | 189032 | ||
We all of us see through our glass darkly. It is always fine to keep in mind our shortcomings, especially when we presume to pass judgment upon other men which, because we do not have the perfect perception that is God's alone, is largely based upon outward appearances. There is a famous passage in 1 Samuel 16:7 that draws a sharp contrast between divine and human perspectives. ..... There was a man whom I once knew who seemed to wear a permanent scowl upon his face, and until I came to know him better, I thought of him and sometimes spoke of him as 'that crabby old man.' Later when our acquaintance grew into friendship, I found him to be one of the kindest and most warm-hearted human beings I've ever known, not at all like the first impressions I had of him. ...... And who has not known a person who made a pleasing initial impression but later showed his true colors, which turned out to be anything but pleasing? ...... I believe it may have been C. S. Lewis -- I'm not absolutely sure -- who related the story about a rather crabby woman in his congregation who barked at about everything and everybody, and rarely seemed quite pleased with anything or acted very pleasant toward other members of the church. A member called C. S. Lewis aside one day and asked him about this woman, whether she was a Christian or just pretented to be. .... "Oh, I don't doubt that she's a regenerate believer," said Lewis. "She has changed considerably since she became a Christian. You see, I knew her before she came to Christ. You should have seen her then." ...... And so, WOS, your call to exercise caution is quite appropriate and applies to us all. It is unwise to place much trust in our perceptions which are at best exceedingly imperfect and woefully inadequate. Shakespeare said, "There is no art to find the mind's contruction in the face." I believe there is neither any art to find in the outward appearance of a man his inner relationship with God. --Hank | ||||||