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1 | Lucifer, Satan, Devil? | Is 14:12 | Ancient | 126998 | ||
EdB, I took time to look over your information and consider it. I also double-checked my references in case I was mistaken. You were right. The King James was written by 7(?) groups of Hebrew/Greek scholars of the time, commissioned by King James. The one I mistaken referred to was the Catholic bible translated to English only a few years earlier (1603ish) from the Latin Vulgate. Now, I was of the impression that the Strong's dictionary with the best of Vines included was a good lexicon. If you say it is not, I will take your word for it and ask if you can recommend a good Hebrew/Greek lexicon that will be both reliable and easy to use so I can do more accurate word studies? (ISBN number included in the recommendation would be a fantastic help). Now, the "shining one" versus "morning star" is a confusing issue. If it translates in its most literal sense as "shining one," why is it being rendered as "morning star" in all of the major translations? I do see what you are saying and why. This is why I am confused. Should it not be translated as "Shining One" if that is what the word truly translates to? Or is this "Shining One" a word/phrase that was used perhaps as an epithet for the planet Venus, much like lucifer is used for the planet Venus while it retains the literal definition of "Light Bearer?" Hope to hear from you soon. Ancient |
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2 | Lucifer, Satan, Devil? | Is 14:12 | EdB | 127012 | ||
Anicent First let's address the issue of Strong's. Strong's concordance was originally put together as a simple concordance. That means a way to find a particular word within the Bible. Strong’s provided multiple services. First he numbered every word in the Bible. Secondly he complied a list of what the word was in the original and what it was translated into. Later simple definitions were added. However today you can buy a Strong's Lexicon which while still based on his original works contain a more in-depth definition of the various words. However there are better dictionaries out there, Vine’s is good but does not contain all words, Word Study Dictionary publish by AMG and written by Spiros Zodiates is excellent but you need to know the Strong’s number. There are number of others I personally use. But let me say I have become more reliant on software. I have made the conversion to electronic library. I did this using two packages Libronix/NELSON/LOGOS and WORDSEARCH. With these two products I can instantly reference thousands of reference books. They will instantly generate my own personal interlinear Bible and/or an Englishman’s concordance which provides and compares the definitions from multiple references. Of one book that is used is “ The Hebrew Aramaic and Greek Dictionary of the NASB exhaustive concordance updated edition.” It is done by Lockman but I think it is only available in software. I can not find a ISBN. Sorry! However you can order the software from Lockman. If you have never used a software Bible study program you may want to try this. You can see for yourself how very useful it is for a rather minimal price. Don’t be confused this is far more extensive than anything presently available on the Web. With the Wordsearch package I can actually hear the pronunciation of Greek Hebrew Aramaic words on my computer speakers. However you may want to check out The Complete Wordstudy Dictionary New Testament and Old Testament by Spiros Zohiates published by AMG Also check out his Hebrew Greek Key Study Bible. Don’t throw away your Strong’s or your Vines they are excellent for what they are. As to your question about Lucifer/Morning Star/Shining one. Obviously the translators knew and understood the perception that this was a reference to Satan or at the very least a pagan god. Therefore they adopted a translation that also spoke to that. If you will look at the margin references in a NASB you will see stated there the correct translation. EdB |
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