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1 | Using the word Lucifer | Is 14:12 | Morant61 | 217810 | ||
Greetings Makarios! Interesting question my friend! I did a little checking, and I could not find any evidence that there is a manuscript question involved. It appears that some just simply mistranslated the word entirely - for some reason. Here are some sample comments about Is. 14:12: Clarke writes: "But the truth is, the text speaks nothing at all concerning Satan nor his fall, nor the occasion of that fall, which many divines have with great confidence deduced from this text. O how necessary it is to understand the literal meaning of Scripture, that preposterous comments may be prevented! Besides, I doubt much whether our translation be correct. heilel, which we translate Lucifer, comes from yalal, yell, howl, or shriek, and should be translated, “Howl, son of the morning;” and so the Syriac has understood it; and for this meaning Michaelis contends:" Barnes indicates that 'lucifer' comes from the Vulgate. Keil and Delitzsch comment: "Lucifer, as a name given to the devil, was derived from this passage, which the fathers (and lately Stier) interpreted, without any warrant whatever, as relating to the apostasy and punishment of the angelic leaders. The appellation is a perfectly appropriate one for the king of Babel, on account of the early date of the Babylonian culture, which reached back as far as the grey twilight of primeval times, and also because of its predominant astrological character." Let me know if you find any more info about the manuscripts. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Using the word Lucifer | Is 14:12 | Makarios | 217839 | ||
Greetings Tim! Here are links to the best information I found on the "Lucifer" manuscript topic: http://www.crivoice.org/lucifer.html http://www.apostolic.net/biblicalstudies/isaiah1412.htm http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_notes_on_lucifer.htm According to http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0.htm, Zechariah 11:2 has a similar 'yalal' to the Hebrew 'heylel' of Isaiah 14:12, but the vowels are different. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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3 | Using the word Lucifer | Is 14:12 | Searcher56 | 217844 | ||
God's day to you, my brother Makarios, Thank you for adding more sources to what I posted, 217715 and 217716. I was not aware of all this a week ago. While it is external study, it helps me as I read/study/mediate on Scripture and now can defend what I believe. It is more than my opinion ... it is as close to the facts as we have. Searcher |
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4 | Using the word Lucifer | Is 14:12 | Makarios | 217845 | ||
You are welcome! :-) Makarios | ||||||