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1 | Why the spotlight on gays? | Prov 6:16 | EdB | 142269 | ||
Interesting read and while the church in my opinion has fallen far short of its calling, and has much to repent for, I think to place any blame for homosexuality on it is stretch. I realize the current trend is to seek to blame anything or anybody but the person caught up in the sin and I think this is yet another example. Could not the problem be sin? Genuine and personal sin? Sin that rebels from the normal and tries to call the abnormal normal. True there are many things that play into this, a society that prompts the over glamorization of sex, of self indulgence and of pleasure seeking, coupled with a diminished sense of right and wrong? Add further the constant portrayal that eliminates or minimizes love, relationship and procreation as part of the sex act, showing "normal" sex as little more than a one night stand done on a whim for nothing more than the physical pleasure it affords. Add further to this mix the day to day barrage from TV, Radio, media that alternate lifestyles is not only self fulfilling but by participating you show yourself to be more intellectual, more tolerant, more compassionate, more willing to be a "risk" taker. Then teach evolution, that we evolved from animals and our sexual nature is an instinct. How or why hold us accountable for something that is inborn and natural, does not the animal world show degrees of homosexuality? Lastly add still one more ingredient, it is not the homosexuals fault, they were either born that way, their parents did it, God did it or now the church did it. But the fact is on judgment day each will stand before God and all the factors mentioned above will not accepted as justification. As I said I will agree the church has much to repent for, however I don't think Romans 1 is saying homosexuality is the curse of Godlessness but rather it is saying that is the result. EdB |
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2 | Why the spotlight on gays? | Prov 6:16 | DocTrinsograce | 142309 | ||
Well, Paul does say that "God gave them over to a reprobate mind." Who did? God. Why? "To do those things which are not convenient." We do not have a sense of corporate guilt these days, do we? It is all about the individual. No more solemn assemblies as in the days of old. Was this a change for good, or for ill? I, for one, am not entirely sure. Regardless, let us all seek by the power of the Holy Spirit to smite the sin that still reigns in our hearts. Make us a holy people, Lord, that we might one day see you. In Him, Doc |
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3 | Why the spotlight on gays? | Prov 6:16 | EdB | 142339 | ||
I never said God didn't turn them over to reprobate mind. Did I? I never said we haven't lost a sense of corporate guilt. Did I? How does these two statement relate to what I said? Let us look at the New Living Translation on this. Romans 1:21-25 (NLT) 21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn't worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. The result was that their minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became utter fools instead. 23 And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people, or birds and animals and snakes. 24 So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. 25 Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. This is an individual failure rather than the failure of the church. It is the responsibility of the individual to worship God in spirit and in truth. The common denominator in all of this was the attitude of the individuals not the church. If people are seeking God and draw near God will draw near to them. On the other hand if they want to make God in their own image, worship what they have created rather than the creator then God will withdraw and allow them to be totally deceived. People in their wisdom have changed God from a loving God to an oppressor, from a just God into an unjust god, from the God of creation into the god of evolution, from a Holy God to a god that winks at sin. Yes the church has problems but the hypothesis this article presents, improperly tries to shift an individual sin to a corporate failure. The assumptions made are bases on what amounts to incorrect exegesis of the scriptures referenced, taking them out of context to support the position of the authors. EdB |
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4 | Why the spotlight on gays? | Prov 6:16 | DocTrinsograce | 142369 | ||
"People in their wisdom have changed God from a loving God to an oppressor, from a just God into an unjust god, from the God of creation into the god of evolution, from a Holy God to a god that winks at sin." Where'd that come from? How in the world you get that out of the article is beyond me, brother Ed. God is both just and loving. Creation versus evolution? Winks at sin? Shifts sin from the individual??? I know you are very sensitive about certain kinds of theology, but those glasses sure aren't rose colored. Whew! Calm down, brother... not much is gained by casting dispersions out of the blue -- extreme blue! I wish I had more time to devote to this, but my schedule isn't permitting it. In Him, Doc PS Whew! |
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5 | Why the spotlight on gays? | Prov 6:16 | EdB | 142406 | ||
Doc Out of the Blue??? If you had read what I said in context instead of trying to make me look the fool you would have seen I was applying what Romans 1:21-25 said into today’s terms. God said this is the reason He would turn people over to their own lusts doing vile and degrading things with their bodies. Which by the way is not the same reason given in this article. Enough!!! Instead of responding to my comments on this article you have attempted in your posts to make it appear that I'm attacking you. Which I never did. That I was some loon pulling things out of the blue. When in fact they were germane to the discussion. You implied I contradicted basic scriptural truths contained in scripture I never even mentioned. Lastly you took a cheap mocking shoot at my Pentecostal background. Since this seems to be one of the two ways you function on this forum I think it best, and before I say something I don't want to, that I just end my participation in this thread. EdB |
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6 | Why the spotlight on gays? | Prov 6:16 | DocTrinsograce | 142461 | ||
Sir, I apologize for taking your words out of context. I gave too much haste to my response while not giving enough time to my reading. Consequently, I misquoted you and even misunderstood you. Mea culpa. I accept the blame for this, and make no excuse. It is with great humility that I beg your forgiveness for this error. In Him, Doc |
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