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1 | Sexual orientation determined at birth | Prov 3:13 | kalos | 104757 | ||
A person’s sexual orientation is determined genetically at birth. Did you agree or disagree? See the following passages: Lev. 18:22-23; Rom. 1:26-27; 1 Cor. 6:9-10; 1 Tim. 1:8-10. |
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2 | Sexual orientation determined at birth | Prov 3:13 | stjones | 104873 | ||
Hi, kalos; Disagree. But not on any Scriptural basis. I have to agree with the liberals who say that the Bible does not specifically address sexual orientation. Scientists have studied this question, however. Despite the best efforts of some to spin it otherwise, science has shown that sexual orientation is not genetically determined. Note that I am citing science rather than Scripture only because the Bible does not specifically address sexual orientation. Don't get me wrong - homosexual behavior is specifically forbidden in the passages you cited. The prohibition is real; the Bible's silence on sexual orientation in particular provides no excuse. Scripture does deal with sinful desires in general - they are the result of our fallen nature and our inclination toward sin. Since homosexual behavior is a sin, we can safely say that the desire to indulge in it is a consequence of the sinful nature. Whether or not sexual orientation is determined genetically at birth is an interestinq question, but the answer doesn't lead to the acceptance of homosexual behavior by the church. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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3 | Sexual orientation determined at birth | Prov 3:13 | Pastor Glenn | 104893 | ||
Well said stjones except: "I have to agree with the liberals who say that the Bible does not specifically address sexual orientation." By the way happy Thanksgiving. I thank the Lord for allowing myself, beautiful wife, and nine children to be in the land of the living. I also thank Him for providing all of our needs. Alleluia. About your statement; respectfully, everything else that you said is the opposite of your opening paragraph. Please let me explain why: Just as you said "...Scripture does deal with sinful desires in general - they are the result of our fallen nature and our inclination toward sin. ...". Scientific literature ignores the fact of the "sinful nature" of fallen man. Here is one scripture that kalos provided: Roman 1 26For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. Does this scripture show "...silence on sexual orientation in particular ..."? I hope that you don't feel that I am knit picking. Pastor Glenn |
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4 | Sexual orientation determined at birth | Prov 3:13 | stjones | 104899 | ||
Hi, Pastor Glenn; I appreciate your comments and, no, I don't think you're picking nits. You're right, science (properly, in my opinion) does not take man's sinful nature into account. In the long run, that's why science will never discover the ultimate source (the "first cause") of homosexual behavior. But let's be clear about the term "sexual orientation". Before anyone claimed that homosexuality was simply an "alternate lifestyle", there was no such thing as "sexual orientation". It was only when a handful of psychologists decided that homosexual acts were "normal" for some people that the need arose to find an explanation other than psychological disorder. This change took place in the 1970s. After all, there never was a need to explain heterosexual acts - they were just normal, expected human behavior. The liberals, of course, claim that the Biblical prohibitions ignore sexual orientation. They say that Paul didn't know about sexual orientation because it was just "discovered" in the last century. They say that the prohibitions only apply to heterosexuals actimg in a way contrary to their nature. They say that the prohibitions don't apply to "natural" homosexuals (i.e. men and women whose sexual orientation leads them toward sex with people of the same gender). In an odd way the liberals have part of it right: The Bible doesn't specifically address sexual orientation because it didn't exist in the first century. Nor does it exist in the 21st. "Homosexual orientation" is nothing more than a particular person's prediliction for a particular kind of sin. So I think the passage in Romans describes homosexual behavior, not sexual orientation. The lust is just plain old lust. God wouldn't be any more pleased if the men burned with lust for the women instead of for each other. Sexual orientation goes deeper than acts or even lusts. It goes to the fundamental nature of the person. It says that even if a person remains utterly chaste in both thought and deed, he or she would still have an inborn tendency to prefer either same- or opposite-gender sex. Or both. Don't underestimate the liberals on this one. They have worked very hard to hide their distortions of Scripture in exotic interpretations of ancient Greek and plausible scientific theories. Theirs is a clever decepion. By coming up with an explanation ("sexual orientation") that the Bible does not address, they have fooled many people into believing that the Bible doens't really say what it clearly says. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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5 | Sexual orientation determined at birth | Prov 3:13 | Pastor Glenn | 104901 | ||
Very well said Steve. I also remember hearing of how the medical community changed the difinition of homosexuality in the 1970s from being a disorder. I realized back then that only bad implications would follow. The liberal judges and politicians are now very confused. They are now mixing in human civil rights in efforts to create a climate of anti-homophobia. They are seeking to prevent us from preaching against this particular sin. Thanks for the elaboration. God bless, Pastor Glenn |
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