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1 | pleasestate your undestandingof verse | Prov 16:33 | keliy | 211606 | ||
Hello Nevvvvine, thank you for your input. I myself pray often for God's will to be done, and ask Him to intervene in the direction of my own life I just read your profile, and I totally agree with your statement that most adherents to a specific denomination believe: "We have the truth, and all others are deceived" This applies to JW, Mormons, Protestants, the pope, and muslims equally. I feel this is the danger with denominations, and it is not to be taken lightly. Not everyone can be right, although I have an aunt that thinks so. This thread started out in a verse in Psalms and ended in a dialogue that resembles the Calvinism Armenianism debate. Actually, both sides of that debate are wrong, God's will is somewhere in between and His Holy Spirit knows that there will be arguments about this. Many adherents do not realize the gravity of the sin they are committing by stirring up these debates. It only professes their own pride and ignorance. What we are called to do is to emanate the aroma of Christ. This is done by helping one another understand their obstacles in God's Word, and not by trying to to induce someone to truckle to our own belief system. Thank you for your heart, keliy |
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2 | pleasestate your undestandingof verse | Prov 16:33 | azurelaw | 211614 | ||
Dear Keliy, 1/ The thread starts out with a verse in Proverb not Psalm :-) 2/ I made the same mistake in the past about the spelling of Arminianism :-) 3/ You say: Actually, both sides of that debate are wrong, God's will is somewhere in between and His Holy Spirit knows that there will be arguments about this. Many adherents do not realize the gravity of the sin they are committing by stirring up these debates. It only professes their own pride and ignorance. Hmmm...isn't it a bit too assertive and arogant? 4/ It seems to me that you have over-generalized the term "denomination" by covering all kinds of beliefs. Could you please advise what is your definition of "denomination"? Thanks and Shalom Azure |
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3 | pleasestate your undestandingof verse | Prov 16:33 | keliy | 211623 | ||
Yes, thank you, Azure, I see your point. I was in a hurry and rambled off an answer off the top of my head, trying to get the same point across that I tried in prior posts. It is difficult for me in an electronic format to get across my main thought or idea. Experts say over 85 percent of all conversations is said to be non-verbal. That is, body language, and such. The point I was making is what has been made over the past week or so. This is: that we are all expected to be displaying a Christian attitude for those that visit for the first time are truly seeking how it is that those who call themselves disciples of Christ really think and live. Yes, humbledbyhisgrace, "The argument is sort of self defeating isn't it?" Of course, that is why I humbly left it out, thanks to His grace. But I am not one who is proud of my humility. I was not trying to say any denom or non-denom was right, only to point out that we are not supposed to be each one claiming to have the right answer. We are supposed to discuss our thoughts and feelings rationally without attacking anybody's views or opinions. My objective was to say that we can not claim to have the right answer. I have posted: "God's thoughts are higher than our thoughts" and now I will enlighten that a little further: For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known. (1 Cor 13:12) For we know in part and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away. (1 Cor 13:9-10) Since we are seeing through our own obscured viewpoints, the impersonal textual format of these posts does not help to get our thoughts made precisely known. So, we really need to exercise higher caution in making sure we understand what an author is trying to say. This is why so many people hate the hypocrisy in the church. I hear it most often from non-church go-ers as their reason for staying away. There are lots of typos on this site and we all look past them to try to get the bigger picture. That is, we all Should. Why should any body claim to be above petty squabbles and then ridicule others over spellings and definitions? This is pointless and does not imitate Christ. Yes, jlhetrick, I hear you, "Perhaps referring to you as "assuming" was a bit of an understatement" are you saying that you restrained yourself for effect? (Webster's definition) I will not argue that point, Can you argue the point that perhaps it was a bit of an overstatement? See my point? without a full knowledge, we should not be making spurious judgements. So, may I say that I find your entire post more than a bit assuming and, well, outrageous, because You said, "It's always interesting to me when someone points the finger of accusation in everyone else's direction and then proclaims to be right and have the answers." Actually I never said that but you did. So, someone who has likely been a Christian for longer than I have been alive, and what do you teach us about being an ambassador of Christ? This is why I come to this forum: to learn and share. What I get is an obstacle to what I seek. What I said, was: What we are called to do is to emanate the aroma of Christ. This is done by helping one another understand their obstacles in God's Word, and not by trying to to induce someone to truckle to our own belief system. Thank you for your heart |
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4 | pleasestate your undestandingof verse | Prov 16:33 | humbledbyhisgrace | 211629 | ||
keliy, I don't know about you but I don't see a point in claiming something if you don't believe it's the truth. :-) We all should be ready and willing to change our views if Scripture corrects them though! Steve |
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