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1 | noah and perfection | Gen 6:9 | Hank | 170505 | ||
hic: The KJV rendering of Gen. 6:9 is thus: "These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." The word "perfect" in this verse carries the idea of completeness or being blameless, but this does not mean sinless, and it certainly does not mean that Noah was exempt from sin imputed to all men since the Fall in Eden (see Romans 5:12-14). Man's "perfection" in no wise justifies man; only, and again I say only, the blood of Christ shed on the cross can do that. Not man's righteousness or his "perfection" or his good works. ........ Perhaps you've sung these words of a beloved old hymn: "What can wash away my sins? Nothing but the blood of Jesus! What can make me whole again? Nothing but the blood of Jesus. O, precious is the flow that makes me white as snow! No other fount I know. Nothing but the blood of Jesus!" ....... "Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world" (John 1:29). ..... Thanks for the question, and God bless you. --Hank | ||||||
2 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | hic | 170536 | ||
unless i'm mistaken, only the creatures living in the oceans survived the flood - what "sin" was the creatures on the land and in the air, other than man, guilty of? not to question god, but were not the animals "innocent"? while their decendemts were sparred, THEIR lives were cut short - thanks! | ||||||
3 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | kennymike | 170542 | ||
to add to your question i offer other scripture that troubles me deeply - Joshua 11:6 6 The LORD said to Joshua, "Do not be afraid of them, because by this time tomorrow I will hand all of them over to Israel, slain. You are to hamstring their horses and burn their chariots." where does this animal cruelty fit in with the scheme of things ? |
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4 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | jlhetrick | 170544 | ||
Hello Kennymike (and also hic if your following) Animals, like men, are creations of God. Animals, unlike men, do not have soles. Wanted you to have this in mind while reading on. At the most basic level we are to understand that God is sovereign (supreme ruler)over all things (Daniel 4:35); not only because He is God, but because He created all things (Eph. 3:9). We know that God is holy (Rev. 15:4) and Just (Psa. 89:14) With these things in mind, we have to know that the choices of God are always perfect and always for a purpose of His own. Therefore, to seek to understand these things is not a bad thing, but to accept them as the rightesous and holy plan of a loving and supreme ruler (even when we don't understand it) is a must. You ask: "where does this animal cruelty fit in with the scheme of things?" good question. Some would have animals on an equal with man. Read almost any newspaper and listen to almost any news radio or tv show and it won't be long before you read or hear it plainly. Still, some would have us relegated to the position of "serving" animals rather than visa versa (same time, same channel). What does the bible say about this? Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." Included in God's plan was and is that man rule over animals and that they serve us; such as the horse and ox for work, and the cow, chicken and fish for food The bible also teaches that we are to be good stuards of all that God has placed us over including the animals. That includes not being abusive to them. Deu 25:4 "You shall not muzzle an ox when it is treading out the grain. Hic had asked something along the lines of what "sin" were animals guilty of to have perished in the flood along with all of humanity save for Noah and his family. The answer is, none. Animals are not guilty, nor are they innocent. They are without soles, they were not created in the image or likeness of God as man was. The bible speaks nowhere of the Lord being born a man and dieing on the cross to redeem animals, but only man. Animals are neither lost nor saved. Do all dogs go to heaven? I don't know, only God knows. Hope this helps, Jeff |
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5 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | MasterWalk | 170546 | ||
Animals may not have been created in the image of God but I do believe that they have souls of some kind. I also believe that God provides for their souls after they die. This may seem childish, but this is what I believe. | ||||||
6 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | hobbs | 170549 | ||
I take the position that God does whatever pleases, and that sinful creatures such as we are in no position to question God's Holiness, no matter how it goes against our conceptions of right and wrong. Dan 4:35 "All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, But He does according to His will in the host of heaven And among the inhabitants of earth; And no one can ward off His hand Or say to Him, 'What have You done?' God Bless, John |
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7 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | Hank | 170556 | ||
Dear John (hobbs): Yours is the sort of answer to which I love to echo a hearty and resounding Amen! My patience grows thinner and thinner toward these foolish questions that begin with "Why did God (do thus and so)?" In my view the church and its members could do with a little less of that kind of nonsense and with a lot more of reverence for and fear of the mighty and awesome God. In Christ, Hank. | ||||||
8 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | Ocelot | 170558 | ||
Not that I disagree with your ultimate statement Hank (because I don’t), but regarding thinning patience and foolish questions, I think it would be fair to take a look at the culture that many Christians are bombarded with every day. Our place in history is unique in that the “leading thinkers” of our day declare that there is no God. That man is a mere accident. And our entertainment industry and our culture are constantly telling us that our religion is a crutch. I completely agree that God receives a pathetic amount of reverence from His creation. But I also think that He understands that we ‘dwell, where Satan's throne is’. I believe that, more than any other time in history, faith is under attack. I think we need to be sensitive to those who may be tempted to doubt. Just my “two-cense”. Ocelot |
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9 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | Hank | 170562 | ||
Ocelot: But so frequently "sensitivity" is a bed-fellow of compromise, and "tolerance" of duplicity. ..... How much of this do you see going on in the typical modern church?: "Preach the word; be instant in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine" (2 Timothy 4:2). ..... And how much of THIS is going on?: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables" (2 Timothy 4:3,4). ...... We don't need to be particularly sensitive or tolerant, in the modern wilted-down senses of these words: that is not what Christians are commanded to do. "Preach the word" is what we are to do, and in large measure it is not what is being done. Churches have tried every appeal under the sun to draw people -- every appeal, that is, except the one that will draw people: the preaching of Jesus Christ and Him crucified. (see 1 Corinthians 1:23-25). How many times have modern church leaders promulgated the idea that the gospel of Christ must be specially packaged for our modern times? The theological word for that idea, when translated from the Greek, is "baloney." ...... Just this week I read a newspaper article about the steady decline in membership of what were once known as the main-line churches in America -- a decline that has been going on steadily and continuously for over a quarter century. Is it mere coincidence that the decline in membership matches up chronologically with the decline of gospel preaching from the pulpits of these churches? And add to that, for it is an inevitable corollary, their abject failure to reject the infiltration of false doctrines while at the same time failing to stand firm for Christian morals -- God's immutable moral laws against, for example, murder and sexual immorality. And in this newsapaper article, a certain preacher in one of these liberal main-line churches whined, "I don't understand why we are losing members. We're doing all we know how to attract and keep them." Perhaps so. Perhaps they've indeed forgotten how to preach the gospel of Christ. How sad. How sad when about all that's left of many erstwhile churches to distinguish them from the world is the spire atop the church building. --Hank | ||||||
10 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | Ocelot | 170565 | ||
Dear Hank, I agree with what you said 100 percent. What you’re describing sounds like what I call “Church Marketing”. Where services are designed to entertain. Where the goal is to get numbers in the pews. And where true Godliness is left at the door. However… The “sensitivity” that I was talking about is not the “sensitivity” that you are talking about. I don’t think that sensitivity means that truth ceases to be truth or that sin ceases to be sin. I’m talking about the sensitivity that does not break “a bruised reed” or extinguish “a dimly burning wick…” The fact that these people are on this forum shows that they seek the truth. They have not swallowed what they’ve been fed. At least not yet. As for patience… we are given an Eleventh Commandment. “Love one another.” According to 1 Corinthians 13:4 “Love is patient…” I hope that you don’t think that I am trying to be arrogant or condescending. I respect you. You are much older and wiser than I. I’m just saying that I know what it’s like to have doubts. Ocelot |
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11 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | Hank | 170570 | ||
Ocelot, well said, and not only do I respect your right to say it but by and large agree with it. Why don't we try substituting the word "compassion" for "sensitivity" and see how it plays? And I do pray that this Forum and its participants will be able to convey a genuine sense of empathy and welcome to sincere inquirers who come to it for counsel and spiritual enlightenment from God's word. A few days ago I marked the passing of another milestone in my affiliation with this Study Bible Forum -- the fifth year of active participation -- and in those years I've experienced quite a bit, both inwardly and outwardly. Inwardly I've grown spiritually as the result of having been exposed to many dear saints on the Forum whose spiritual insights were far deeper than my own and whose knowledge of Scripture more profound than mine. Outwardly I've had occasion to come into contact with any number of people who espouse a faith differing from my own, sometimes considerably and sometimes only minimally. I've witnessed various cults being promulgated and suffered though and survived the brief moments that radical proponents of cults and other heresies were allowed their place in the sun, as it were, and then they moved on -- some of their own volition and some by being relieved by the site owner of their privilege to post. ...... That said, I do pray, however, that no honest and sincere inquirer after the truth of God's word will ever be turned away, or snubbed, or mocked, or ridiculed, or reprimanded, strictly by virtue of his quest. It is my considered conviction that this Forum should ever keep its arms open, its heart attuned, and its focus fixed on those from every clime who are exemplified by these words from a dear old hymn, "More about Jesus would I know, more of His grace to others show." May we all of us, student or teacher, baby Christian or seasoned saint, be filled with God's love and grace, and thus empowered, bring honor and glory to Christ through these pages. No one knows save God alone what impact our words on this Forum, for good or bad, may have for all eternity. --Hank | ||||||