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1 | Is this a prophecy about Messiah? | Gen 49:10 | thetowns | 74398 | ||
Am I reading this right that this verse is a prophecy about the Messiah? Also, is there elsewhere I can find references to or information about Shiloh? Blessing to all who follow the Christ |
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2 | Is this a prophecy about Messiah? | Gen 49:10 | BradK | 74409 | ||
TheTowns, I believe the prophecy foretold here is that the Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah. Here is some info regarding Gen. 49:10 from JFB: until Shiloh come—Shiloh—this obscure word is variously interpreted to mean “the sent” (Jn 17:3), “the seed” (Is 11:1), the “peaceable or prosperous one” (Eph 2:14)—that is, the Messiah (Is 11:10; Ro 15:12); and when He should come, “the tribe of Judah should no longer boast either an independent king or a judge of their own” [Calvin]. The Jews have been for eighteen centuries without a ruler and without a judge since Shiloh came, and “to Him the gathering of the people has been.” From Eastons Bible Dictionary, here is some additional background on Shilo: Shiloh — generally understood as denoting the Messiah, “the peaceful one,” as the word signifies (Gen. 49:10). The Vulgate Version translates the word, “he who is to be sent,” in allusion to the Messiah; the Revised Version, margin, “till he come to Shiloh;” and the LXX., “until that which is his shall come to Shiloh.” It is most simple and natural to render the expression, as in the Authorized Version, “till Shiloh come,” interpreting it as a proper name (comp. Isa. 9:6). Shiloh, a place of rest, a city of Ephraim, “on the north side of Bethel,” from which it is distant 10 miles (Judg. 21:19); the modern Seilun (the Arabic for Shiloh), a “mass of shapeless ruins.” Here the tabernacle was set up after the Conquest (Josh. 18:1–10), where it remained during all the period of the judges till the ark fell into the hands of the Philistines. “No spot in Central Palestine could be more secluded than this early sanctuary, nothing more featureless than the landscape around; so featureless, indeed, the landscape and so secluded the spot that from the time of St. Jerome till its re-discovery by Dr. Robinson in 1838 the very site was forgotten and unknown.” It is referred to by Jeremiah (7:12, 14; 26:4–9) five hundred years after its destruction." I hope this is of help, BradK |
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3 | Is this a prophecy about Messiah? | Gen 49:10 | EdB | 74413 | ||
Bradk I think you did an injustice to Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown by failing to give the preceding paragraph along with the one you used. Genesis 49:8-12. JUDAH—A high pre-eminence is destined to this tribe (Numbers 10:14; Judges 1:2). Besides the honor of giving name to the Promised Land, David, and a greater than David—the Messiah—sprang from it. Chief among the tribes, "it grew up from a lion's whelp"—that is, a little power—till it became "an old lion"—that is, calm and quiet, yet still formidable. This paragraph shows that JFB does agree this is messianic prophecy. What you presented appears at least to me do deny this until it is read in context. Interestingly Israel did for the first time since becoming a nation lost the scepter when Rome removed their ability to execute prisoners convicted of religious crimes without Rome's approval. that occurred according to secular history in 4 AD which is 4 to 8 years after the birth of Jesus the Rest giver. Even when Israel was in captivity to Babylon and later the Greeks there remained a religious entity based within Judah that could pass judgement on religious crimes. EdB |
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4 | Is this a prophecy about Messiah? | Gen 49:10 | BradK | 74417 | ||
EdB, Please forgive my oversight! Yes, I stand corrected and did in fact overlook including this important preceding paragraph:-) No intended injustice to the very fine and time-tested JFB! Speaking The Truth In Love, BradK |
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5 | Is this a prophecy about Messiah? | Gen 49:10 | thetowns | 74434 | ||
Thank you both for your help. I think I understand this more clearly now. Sounds like I need to go find a JFB for myself!! |
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