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1 | The fruit and leaves of the tree of life | Gen 2:9 | Brian#9 | 184569 | ||
Hello Jonp; You mean the Kingdom of God. Where are you going with 'old' Israel and 'new' Israel? Yes the Church (believers in Christ) has taken up the responsibility that once was Israels. The promises to Israel are still in effect. (God dose not change) Remember the 144,000. In the Bible 'nation' refers to heathen, Gentile correct? Are you using it that way here? I asked for the definition of 'period' of Kingly Rule of God. When dose it begin, and now when dose it end? I ask you to define 'period' of the everlasting kingdom, and when dose it begin. These are your terms in your explanation. In His Hand, Brian |
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2 | The fruit and leaves of the tree of life | Gen 2:9 | jonp | 184590 | ||
Hi Brian. The word Basileia actually refers to 'Kingly Rule' and not to a 'Kingdom'. A Basileia reaches as far as the king's influence and no further. The church ('congregation') are the true congregation of Israel. Old and new Israel are not my ideas. They are the ideas of Jesus and of Paul. The church has not 'taken up' the responsibility of others, it has fulfilled its own responsibility as the continuing Israel. Peter and the other Apostles, including Paul, would have denied hotly that they were replacing Israel. Peter addresses the church as 'the Dispersion' (Israel scatted abroad). James calls them 'the twelve tribes of Israel. The Apostles saw themselves as carrying forward their task as the renewed Israel. The Kingly Rule of God began at creation. It will never end, for it is everlasting. But it was especially brought home on earth by Jesus Christ as He brought the Kingly Rule of God to men's attention and sought to draw men into it. Best wishes Jonp | ||||||
3 | The fruit and leaves of the tree of life | Gen 2:9 | Brian#9 | 184618 | ||
Thank you Sir; How do you rightly divide the verses I mention in my post within the three time periods you mentioned? I did not say that the Church would be replacing Israel. By "taking up the responsibilities" more like being past a baton in a race to carry it across the finish line. Israel (remnant) with Christ on His Throne,and the sheep 'nations',without Satan's influence for 1,000 years fits where? In His Hand, Brian |
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4 | The fruit and leaves of the tree of life | Gen 2:9 | jonp | 184636 | ||
Hi Brian, From the wording of your question I presume you would like me to reply. Your first question would require a long winded reply so I will leave it. Are we in a race in which we have been passed on the baton? See Hebrews 12.1-2 along with chapter 11. What happens to the sheep nations? If we accept Jesus answer to the question at face value they go immediately into everlasting life or everlasting punishment (Matthew 25.48). God has been reigning over the earth from the beginning of time (Psalm 22.28; 103.19; 93.1; 97.1; 99.1). Christ began reigning over the earth when He ascended into Heaaven and was enthroned (Acts 2.36; Ephesians 1.19-22). The souls of the departed began to reign over the earth when they died (Revelation 20.4). There is no suggestion anywhere that they reign ON the earth. Satan has been bound since Christ came and bound him (Mark 3.27 and parallels) and will continue to be so until he is let loose. We are the remnant of Israel over whom He reigns. |
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5 | The fruit and leaves of the tree of life | Gen 2:9 | stjohn | 184643 | ||
hello Jonp; Talking of Israel. "There is no suggestion anywhere that they reign ON the earth". These were your words! Now! May I make a suggestion? It appears that this is more then a SUGGESTION! THIS IS A PROMIS! Gen13:14 The LORD said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him, "Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward; Gen 13:15 for all the land which you see, I will give it to you and to your descendants forever. And I Know. that forever according to you, probably does not mean forever, Nor does land mean land. i.e. "scripture according to Jonp"! God's peace stj |
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