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1 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | Reformer Joe | 69318 | ||
You wrote: "languistically spoken words are a very POOR way to communicate in the first place" And yet it is the way God ordained to preserve His revelation for His people.... You also wrote: "Anyway, when we communicate with Him, he understands us even without words because when he made us he installed a communications link - ....your soul..." According to the Bible, it is not our souls that are the "communications link." It is God Himself, the Holy Spirit: "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." --John 14:26 "In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God." --Romans 8:26-27 "Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words." --1 Corinthians 2:12-13 --Joe! |
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2 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | celestine6869 | 69398 | ||
When I said linguistically spoken words are a very POOR way to communicate an idea in the first place you wrote, “And yet it is the way God ordained to preserve His revelation for His people” HOW DO YOU KNOW? Were you one of the teachers who were there? What if when HE spoke, you understood the words that he used, and what if when he gave you a mental picture you had to put those images into words yourself? Not to mention that GOD Himself did not write the Bible. It was written by more that 40 different authors (who were INSPIRED) by God. However, in your defense, there are specific instances in the Bible where Jesus is speaking and those spoken words would have been exactly what God wanted to convey because Jesus Was God in the Flesh. (see me analogy below) Earlier I wrote, "Anyway, when we communicate with Him, he understands us even without words because when he made us he installed a communications link -. Your soul..." and then YOU said, “According to the Bible, it is not our souls that are the "communications link." It is God Himself, the Holy Spirit:” I hear what you are saying but I will have to disagree with you. I am convinced that when we pray to God WE USE WORDS, BUT HE conveys His message back to us via our own soul or spirit. Sometimes He uses spoken words in the form of a voice in our mind, but it is my experience that typically He replies to us with a “gut feeling”. In my opinion, this gut feeling is your soul which is connected to Him. By the way, I appreciate you helping make my point with the very quotes that validated what I am trying to say… “…GROWNINGS TOO DEEP FOR WORDS; and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is…” --Romans 8:26-27” AND “…combining spiritual THOUGHTS with spiritual words." --1 Corinthians 2:12-13 Here is the analogy that I mentioned earlier, Let’s pretend God “SPEAKS” to you. Let’s say He show’s you an object and talks to you about it. Now I would image that he may or may not use only “spoken words” HE may also use pictures or images, could He not? Ok if we are in agreement for a moment – now I would like for you to look at a piece of wood furniture there in your home. Notice the intricate detail of the grains in the wood, the color, texture, shape, etc. You obviously see and KNOW what you are looking at right? Now I would like for you to describe for me in spoken (or obviously ‘for this example’ written) words what you are looking at so that I too will see exactly what you are looking at, which will allow me to see the very same image as you see it… |
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3 | Genesis 11:7 Who is "Us"? | Gen 11:7 | Reformer Joe | 69421 | ||
"HOW DO YOU KNOW?" A good question to ask. How do we know that the Scriptures are the word of God? Here is the way one of my church's confessional standards answers that question: "The Scriptures manifest themselves to be the Word of God, by their majesty and purity; by the consent of all the parts, and the scope of the whole, which is to give all glory to God; by their light and power to convince and convert sinners, to comfort and build up believers unto salvation: but the Spirit of God bearing witness by and with the Scriptures in the heart of man, is alone able fully to persuade it that they are the very word of God." You wrote: "Not to mention that GOD Himself did not write the Bible." The doctrine of inspiration teaches that the Bible's words are those of God and of the men that wrote them at the same time. You are not suggesting that the Bible is not completely and infallibly authoritative, are you? If I am misunderstanding you, I apologize. If not, please pay attention to Lockman's guidelines for the Forum: "2. This post is not intended as a personal attack on the authority of the Bible or on other users of this forum." You wrote: "Sometimes He uses spoken words in the form of a voice in our mind," I don't believe that. '...but it is my experience that typically He replies to us with a “gut feeling”. In my opinion, this gut feeling is your soul which is connected to Him.' You used both the words "experience" and "opinion" here (along with "gut feeling"). Are we as sinning human beings, who often do not want God's will to be done, to rely on opinion and experience and feeling? How do you know your "gut feeling" was God and not indigestion? --Joe! |
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