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1 | Is anything in the bible proven untrue | Ps 119:160 | ateo | 67116 | ||
PK, Read I Kings 7:23. The Sea was circular in shape. It had a diameter of 10 cubits and a circumference of 30 cubits. This means that the circumference divided by the diameter was 3. However, it should've been pi, which is 3.14159265... So, the answer to your question, "Is anything in the bible proven untrue," is yes. ateo |
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2 | Is anything in the bible proven untrue | Ps 119:160 | retxar | 67252 | ||
You need to look down at verse 26 "It was a handbreadth thick; and its brim was shaped like the brim of a cup," A handbreath is about 3 inches and the brim of a cup is flared out, I would say at least an inch. The measurement from outside to outside of the brim was 10 cubits (about 180 inches). The circumference of the bowl would almost have to be taken from the inside, because it would need to be measured before it was cast, which would equal the circumference of the core, which would be the inside of the bowl. So lets do the math. Brim to brim is 180". Subtract the thickness twice (6 inches) we now have 174 inches. Subtract the flare twice (2 inches) we now have 172 inches. 3.14 (pi) x 172" is 540.08 inches. 30 cubits is about 540 inches!!! This is just over 1/16 of an inch (the size of a flea!) of being right on!! I know of no building contractor anywhere that can measure something 45 feet long this close, let alone build it!! This is a powerful text to prove The Bible's accuracy, not it's error. retxar |
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3 | Is anything in the bible proven untrue | Ps 119:160 | ateo | 67287 | ||
Rextar, Thanks for your response! "The circumference of the bowl would almost have to be taken from the inside..." If this is how you interpret the verse, then your explanation is certainly plausible. However, the verse says that it took a measure of 30 cubits AROUND. (emphasis mine) So I see it as being 10 cubits from outside rim to outside rim and 30 cubits along the exterior. ateo |
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4 | Is anything in the bible proven untrue | Ps 119:160 | retxar | 67351 | ||
You are only looking at the finish product and you are not even thinking about the process of getting there. There were many measurements that needed to be known and taken before this swimming pool size bowl was even started! From a design standpoint, which is really what would have been Solomon’s concern and reason to know, and what would be reasonable to think God would have revealed to him, the circumference measurement would have been AROUND the core, which would be the inside of the bowl, not the outside. I know you know your arithmetic, but do you really have any idea how something like this large bowl would have been cast? Would you know where to start? If you did, you would know that the circumference of the core would be something handy to know and that the diameter from brim to brim would be something handy to know and you would have indeed been blessed if God had given you both! The bowl was probably constructed upside down. Straw or some other filler would first have been heaped up to a size somewhat smaller than the inside dimensions of the bowl. Next, the straw would have been covered with clay to a size somewhat larger than the inside dimensions of the bowl. Next, the clay would have been trimmed, honed, and sanded down to the exact size as God specified. This is where the 540 inch core circumference would have came into play. Next, the clay would have been hardened and cured with heat. Next, wax, paraffin, or some another material that would melt would have been put on the outside of the clay core to a size somewhat larger than the outside dimensions of the bowl. Next, the wax would have then been trimmed, honed, and sanded down to the exact size as God specified. This is where the 172 inch brim to brim measurement would have came into play. Next, the wax would have been covered with clay. Next, this layer of clay would have hardened and cured. Next, holes at the top would have been added thru the outer clay and into the wax cavity for molten brass to be poured into. Next, holes would have then been added at the bottom for the wax to escape. Next, molten brass would have then poured into the wax cavity which would cause the wax to melt and be replaced with brass as the melting wax escaped thru the relief holes. After the brass had set up and cooled down, the outer clay shell would be chipped away. The bowl would have then been turned right side up and the clay and straw on the inside would be removed. A few finishing touches and we now have a bowl large enough to be called a sea and it is exactly as God wanted and as He precisely specified for His Temple! The Bible is an anvil that has worn out many hammers my friend! Keep on hammering away if you like, but I would suggest you just put down your hammer and realize that Jesus has already been hammered to a cross for you! Just give it up and believe His WORD! John 20:27b ....do not be unbelieving, but believing. retxar |
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5 | Is anything in the bible proven untrue | Ps 119:160 | ateo | 67509 | ||
Retxar, Again, if that is how you interpret this passage, then more power to you. I just don't see it that way. ateo PS By the way, how do you pronounce "Retxar"? |
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6 | Is anything in the bible proven untrue | Ps 119:160 | retxar | 67540 | ||
It's OK if you don't see it that way, but if you had even built anything like this (on a smaller scale of coarse), it would make sense to you. You have to admit that it is very probable and you cannot rule out what I have said. Even if I am not correct the Bible is, and you are really grabbing at straws here to try to say this scripture is in error! When you are measuring stuff with strings and sticks, 15 digit precision is not really an issue anyway! Apparently Solomon got every thing built OK, so I guess he had no problem with the numbers God gave him or he would not have wrote them down! How do I pronounce "Retxar"? Well, I don't really know. It has a rhyme and reason but I guess it is not really a word. Here’s another arithmetic question for you and you don’t even have to use pi! What if the bowl was made from 6 brass plates joined together to form the walls. This would not be a true circle, but THE WORD says “circular in form”, and this would indeed be “circular in form” in the same way as a geometric dome house is “circular in form” or the old wooden barrels made from slats were “circular in form”. They are constructed in the same fashion and everyone calls them “round” houses and “round” barrels. If the bowl was 10 cubits outside to outside, what would be the outside length of each of the 6 plates that make up to wall have to be? What would this number multiplied by six be? This number would be the length around the outside walls. retxar P.S. A true math whiz kid ought to be able to do this in his head, but you can use your calculator if you like! |
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