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561 | Love/Feed/Tend His Sheep | Mark 6:34 | Rowdy | 131489 | ||
Greek Words for Love, Part 1: I must admit, I didn't dream there was so much information on the internet about this subject, www.biblestudymanuals.net/love.htm. If you'll check out this website, you'll see I had to leave a great deal of information to squeeze on this exerpt. Please forgive. The bottom line is that although I do agree with you there is some small controversy on this subject as you mentioned. But a thorough study as has been cited on this website leads any serious Bible student to one single conclusion and that is there's a very real and distinct different type of love reflected in these two words. Everything about our God is far superior to anything you and I could ever think about man. Nothing we can do or say can even come close. So I must disagree with you, dear friend. I do hope you'll re-study the topic and pray about it. LOVE: A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE I) AGAPE LOVE A) INTRODUCTION [The New Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the NT, Joseph Henry Thayer, Hendrickson, Peabosy, Ma, 1981, p. 3]: "agapaO ..... to love, to be full of good-will and exhibit the same... to have a preference for, wish well to, regard the welfare of ... often of the love of Christians towards one another; of the benevolence which God in providing salvation for men, has exhibited by sending His Son to them and giving Him up to death... of the love which led Christ, in procuring human salvation to undergo sufferings and death... of the love with which God regards Christ..." [Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, W. E. Vine, Fleming H. Revell, Old Tappan, N. J., p. 20]: "Agape and agapaO are used in the N.T. (a) to describe the attitude of God toward His Son, John 17:26; the human race, generally, John 3:16; Rom 5:8; and to such as believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, particularly, John 14:21; (b) to convey His will to His children concerning their attitude one toward another, John 13:34, and toward all me, 1 Thess 3:12; 1 Cor 16:14; 2 Pet 1:7 (c) to express the essential nature of God, 1 John 4:8. Love can be known only from the actions it prompts. God's love is seen in the gift of His Son, 1 John 4:9, 10. But obviously this is not the love of complacency, or affection, that is, it was not drawn out by any excellency in its objects, Rom 5:8. It was an exercise of the Divine will in deliberate choice, made without assignable cause save that which lies in the nature of God Himself, cp. Deut 7:7, 8. Love had its perfect expression among men in the Lord Jesus Christ, 2 Cor 5:14; Eph 2:4; 3:19; 5:2; Christian love is the fruit of His Spirit in the Christian, Gal 5:22. Christian love has God for its primary object, and expresses itself first of all in implicit obedience to His commandments, John 14:15, 21, 23; 15:10; 1 John 2:5; 5:3; 2 John 6. Self-will, that is, self-pleasing, is the negation of love to God. Christian love, whether exercised toward the brethren, or toward men generally, is not an impluse from the feelings, it does not always run with the natural inclinations, nor does it spend itself only upon those for whom some affinity is discovered. Love seeks the welfare of all, Rom 15:2, and works no ill to any, 13:8-10; love seeks opportunity to do good to all men, and especially toward them that are of the household of the faith, Gal 6:10. Please read Part 2. Thanks and God bless. Rowdy |
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562 | Love/Feed/Tend His Sheep | Mark 6:34 | Rowdy | 131490 | ||
Greek Words for Love, Part 2: In respect of agapaO as used of God, it expresses the deep and constant love and interest of a perfect Being towards entirely unworthy objects, producing and fostering a reverential love in them towards the Giver, and a practical love towards those who are partakers of the same, and a desire to help others to seek the Giver. [Kenneth Wuest states, (Wuest's Word Studies, From the Greek New Testament, Vol 3, Eerdmans Publishing Co, Grand Rapids, Mi, 1992, no 28, p. 62]: "'Phileo' is a love which consists of the glow of the heart kindled by the perception of that in the object which affords us pleasure. It is the response of the human [soul] to what appeals to it as pleasurable... The word was used to speak of a friendly affection. It is a love called out of one in response to a feeling of pleasure or delight which one experiences from an apprehension of qualities in another that furnish such pleasure or delight. 'Agapao' on the other hand, speaks of a love which is awakened by a sense of value in the object loved, an apprehension of its preciousness. [Cp. Rev 22:15; Mt 6:5; 10:37; 23:6; Lk 20:46; Jn 11:3, 36; 16:27; 1 Cor 16:22] B) PASSAGES TO CONSIDER 1) AGAPE-SACRIFICIAL-SERVING-OF-OTHERS-LOVE VS PHILEO-AFFECTIONATE-LOVE a) [Jn 21:15-17]: (v. 15) "When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, 'Simon son of John, do you truly love ["agapas"] Me more than these [disciples]? 'Yes, Lord,' he said, 'you know that I love ["philO] you.' Jesus said, 'Feed My lambs.' (v. 16) Again Jesus said, 'Simon son of John, do you truly love ["agapas"] me?' He answered, 'Yes, Lord, you know that I ["philO"] you.' Jesus said, 'Take care of My sheep.' (v. 17) The third time He said to him, 'Simon son of John, do you love ["phileis"] Me?' Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time 'Do you love ["phileis"] Me?' He said, 'Lord, you know all things; you know that I love ["philO] you.' Jesus said, 'Feed My sheep.' " Notice that Peter uses the verb form "philO" that is rendered 'love' in answer to the Lord Jesus Christ Who uses another verb, "agapas" for the first two times He asked Peter His question, 'Do you love Me?' There is an obvious emphasis on the issue of whether or not Peter loves the Lord with "agapas" love with His two repetitions of this word, especially after Peter answered in the affirmative albeit with "philO": "Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love [philO] you." The difference between the two verbs can hardly be a simple choice of possible synonymous words for literary style purposes, especially with our Lord's repetition and Peter's use of another word for love, "philO". The intent of writer John which is readily observable is to report the words of our Lord and Peter and not do any editorializing for the sake of style or change of meaning. In the light of Peter's earlier three time denial of our Lord where he said he did not even know Him, (18:17, 25, 27); our Lord's three fold question paralleling Peter's threefold denial gave Peter an opportunity to restore his committment of agape and phileo love and of being a faithful disciple. Notice that Peter was hurt when our Lord asked him the question for the third time, (v. 17), which points to a difference in meaning between the two words, agapas and philO Peter's use of "philO" love instead of "agapas" love is striking and points to a difference of meaning. It is normative to respond to a question using the same verb if the same meaning is intended. And the converse is also true: It is basic to normative rules of language, context and logic that a response to a yes or no question that (1) goes beyond yes or no (2) changes the wording of the question (from agape to phileO forms) (3) leaves parts of the question out/unanswered ('more than these' ignored) usually implies an evasion of the question, i.e., a change of meaning. Just as a husband's response to his wife's question, 'Do you love me more than your job?' (Husband): 'You know that I have great affection for you' points to an evasion on all 3 counts; so Peter's response to our Lord's questions indicates an evasion of the intent of the question with a response that has changed the parameters of the question from (1) a single absolute yes or no (2) agape to phileO love (3) love Me 'more than these' to not addressing 'more than these' at all. Notice that our Lord's third question of 'Do you love me?' uses the verb "phileis". This parallels Peter's use of "phileo" love twice before in response to our Lord instead of "agapas". If the integrity of author John's account of this conversation is to have any validty, surely the verbs used here are an accurate rendering of that conversation which implies (my correction) a difference of meaning. Please read Part 3. Thanks and God bless. Rowdy |
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563 | Love/Feed/Tend His Sheep | Mark 6:34 | Rowdy | 131491 | ||
Greek Words for Love, Part 3 (and to think, I trimmed it down greatly): So the point our Lord is making is that the value of an emotional, affectionate 'philos' love is based on how connected it is to true godly 'agape', sacrificial, love, which in the case of Peter, relates to Peter's feeding, i.e., teaching and taking care of our Lord's sheep, i.e., believers; especially since they belong to the Lord Jesus Christ. One can have 'philOs', affectionate love for someone but not have agape sacrificial, responsible, active, helpful, kind and truthful 'agape', godly love. It, (the 'philOs' love), then would have very limited worth or value, being unconnected to godly love. Some contrasts between agape and philia are as follows: Philia - Agape Natural - Learned Emotional - Volitional Discriminatory - Non-discriminatory Conditional - Unconditional Pleasure - Preciousness Delight - Esteem Liking - Prizing Because of - In spite of Fails - Never fails Looking forward to your response. God bless. Rowdy |
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564 | Love/Feed/Tend His Sheep | Mark 6:34 | Rowdy | 131500 | ||
As I tried to explain in my Post no 131453, it appears that God recognizes in the best of mankind, we usually muster up enough love between family members and maybe even a few select friends as shown in: Luke 6:27 "But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. 29To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. 30Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not ask them back. 31And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise. 32"But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. 35But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil. 36Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful. The real difference as portrayed above is when we as God's children learn to truly love the most common sinner amongst us, even when he's NOT our friend. We should always love the sinner but hate his sin. Yes, I agree, that's tough to do. That's what makes us human and separates us from God, and separates His Thoughts, His Ways from our thoughts and ways. Surely you've experienced this kind of worldly love in your lifetime. We humans (especially Americans) think so casually about love. I've said it before and will repeat myself: We'll turn to the most treasured being to us (our spouse) on this planet and tell her we'll love her forever and minutes later exclaim with delight we love our favorite food when it's put down in front of us. We humans are so fickle. We love that same person one minute and an hour later fight like cats and dogs over a stupid TV show and whose turn it is to watch their favorite show after promising we'll strive to spend quality time together. No, my friend only God can show us what real, genuine true Agape type love really is. He did it with the sending of His Son for all of us, even the most vile sinner that's ever lived. Would you have done such a thing with your most prized and beloved son or some other family member? Would you have given up that sweet innocent child for some scumbag who doesn't really deserve to be spat upon in the world's judgment? No, I doubt if I would have done such a thing either. That, my friend is what distinguishes between these two kinds of love. You ask "Why? How can this be possible?" I don't really know. All I know is I read it in my Bible and it's endorsed so many, many times by God's Words AND His Actions. Yes, His Actions speak louder than His Words as do ours. Which level of love will we strive for? I'm going to do my best to obey my God and strive for His. Sure, I'll fail and will continue to fail but I'll get back up and continue to try because He told me to. Do continue studying and praying on this, my friend. God bless. Rowdy |
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565 | What is the "reward" ? | Mark 9:41 | Rowdy | 115489 | ||
It seems the only reward He could be referring to would be that of Heaven. You'll notice he's been talking about that subject in a round about way in verse 35. Why else would such humble men such as these give up all they had to follow Jesus for 3 and 1 half years? Apparently, Peter even left his wife and family if he had any. Throughout most of Jesus' ministry this kind of thinking usually dominated their thoughts just like it would you and me if we had been there. God bless. | ||||||
566 | What is the "reward" ? | Mark 9:41 | Rowdy | 115645 | ||
Got posted to the wrong thread: It seems the only reward He could be referring to would be that of Heaven. You'll notice he's been talking about that subject in a round about way in verse 35. Why else would such humble men such as these give up all they had to follow Jesus for 3 and 1 half years? Apparently, Peter even left his wife and family if he had any. Throughout most of Jesus' ministry this kind of thinking usually dominated their thoughts just like it would you and me if we had been there. God bless. |
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567 | What is the "reward" ? | Mark 9:41 | Rowdy | 115763 | ||
I have to agree with you as I have spent several years overseas, 4 in Athens, Greece and another 4 in Okinawa, Japan with my family. When you spend that much time in one country, one really "soaks up" a lot more culture. We have sooo much to be thankful for in this country and the worst tragedy is we're letting it slip away from us, right before our eyes. I worry about what we're leaving to the next several generations of Americans. This is one of the reasons I encourage especially the young people in my world to think about joining the military and see the world, then come home to American and re-appreciate what we have here. I do think the devil is incredibly clever and comes up with the perfect temptations for the different cultures, countries and yes even the different generations. I think he knows the fralities and weaknesses of the us humans and can fine tune his temptations so the only way we can possibly fend off ALL of them is with God's help. The bottom line in response to your comment: Most Americans (including me) don't have a clue what the majority of the world outside the US goes through to gain just a small portion of Godliness or Christianity. I do know most of those folks do put their lives in EXTREME jeporady when they do pursue such a lifestyle. Again, I'll thank God in a public way for my being an American as well as my family. God bless. |
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568 | What is the "reward" ? | Mark 9:41 | Rowdy | 115983 | ||
I accept your position but I can't put any faith in the rapture or premillenialism either one w/o much proof from God's Word. I would only encourage you and all others to put your faith in Christ first and foremost and put very little faith into these two questionable features of the movement. That way hopefully, I'll see you all in Heaven. God bless. | ||||||
569 | Burn in Hell? | Mark 9:43 | Rowdy | 118229 | ||
Matt 18:9 "If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than to have two eyes and be cast into the fiery hell. These two verses are the only ones I could find in the NASB version of the Bible. There may be more but since there is somewhat of a variety of descriptions of hell, a person could argue all these descriptions are there to give us the idea it's a horrible place and indeed it is. I've heard it argued for example how can fire exist there since there will be no oxygen for it to consume but then God had the burning bush to burn and not consume that bush so what's the answer? I honestly don't know. I'm not sure anyone can give an authoritative answer from the Bible but it surely is a place I want to avoid. God bless. --Rowdy |
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570 | burn in hell | Mark 9:43 | Rowdy | 118328 | ||
It's difficult to undo bad feelings or harsh statements to friends. That's why we have to be careful and dispense true Godliness in accordance with His Word. Go slow and tread carefully. Now I say this but I have difficulty practicing it. So be prepared to apologize a lot if you really want to maximize your chances with these folks. God bless. --Rowdy |
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571 | From what are we ransomed? | Mark 10:45 | Rowdy | 115633 | ||
Luk 2:36 There was also a prophetess, Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was very old; she had lived with her husband seven years after her marriage, 37and then was a widow until she was eighty-four. She never left the temple but worshiped night and day, fasting and praying. 38Coming up to them at that very moment, she gave thanks to God and spoke about the child to all who were looking forward to the redemption of Jerusalem. Matt 20:25 Jesus called them together and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. 26Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 27and whoever wants to be first must be your slave-- 28just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." Rom 6:22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Jer 51:6 "Flee from Babylon! Run for your lives! Do not be destroyed because of her sins. It is time for the LORD's vengeance; he will pay her what she deserves. Rom 3:21 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished-- 26he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus. 27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. 28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law. After reading the above, we must conclude: God has an absolute perfect sense of justice. And that justice MUST be adhered to so Jesus was the perfect sacrifice as foreshadowed by the Law of Moses and its system of imperfect sacrifices. Without the blood of Christ covering our sins, we have to face God's judgment and reap the full wages of our sins, eternal death of our spirits, being separated from God, sentenced to Hell forever. In that respect, Satan owns our souls as he takes us with him to Hell UNLESS we have Christ as our redeemer. Redemption is part of God's Plan of Salvation so that Christ literally pays the ransom for us on that cross. God bless all who study and obey God's Word. |
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572 | Who Is Our Mutual Enemy? | Mark 13:7 | Rowdy | 119503 | ||
Just remember dear Colin, we're commanded to love the sinner but hate the sin, both his and ours. Tough to do, you bet it is. Especially when their manner of speech and everything about them exudes evil or some variation. But that's our mission. God bless. --Rowdy |
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573 | Who Is Our Mutual Enemy? | Mark 13:7 | Rowdy | 119509 | ||
Your point is well taken as you did a superp job of supporting it with several good scriptures. I'll have to think about this tough topic for a while. "See ya" at that time. God bless. --Rowdy | ||||||
574 | Is baptism for salvation? (Mark 16:16) | Mark 16:16 | Rowdy | 111176 | ||
All I can say is Amen!! Good job and God bless. | ||||||
575 | Isn't baptism needed for salvation? | Mark 16:16 | Rowdy | 111208 | ||
I too am TRYING to be good and remain silent but I must insert this quote from the book of Acts and then I'll hush. I insert this once again in an effort to balance the scale here. Acts 5: 28"We gave you strict orders not to teach in this name," he said. "Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man's blood." 29Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than men! 30The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead--whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree. God bless ALL of you in your studies. |
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576 | Where the Scriptual proof? | Mark 16:16 | Rowdy | 111210 | ||
I could only repeat the words previously cited in my post 110437 and 107920. God bless. | ||||||
577 | power of jesus | Luke | Rowdy | 118556 | ||
You're going to have to give us a little more to go on. What particular aspect of power do you wish to dicuss? To which chapter and verses are you referring? God bless. --Rowdy | ||||||
578 | Why Matthew is "introduced" late... | Luke 1:3 | Rowdy | 116321 | ||
The following is cited for reference: Luke 1:1 Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile an account of the things accomplished among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word, 3 it seemed fitting for me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in consecutive order, most excellent Theophilus; 4 so that you may know the exact truth about the things you have been taught. We have to remember that these men, writers of the NT were human, inspired yes by the Holy Spirit. But I have no problem believing that they would each "interview" the different apostles and disciples and get as full accounting of the facts as they possibly could. I think the Holy Spirit helped them realize when someone was adding/fabricating or misrepresenting themselves. Some small bits of history they may have even discarded in accordance with the guidance from the Holy Spirit. What do you think? Especially about this passage in Luke? God bless. |
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579 | Why Matthew is "introduced" late... | Luke 1:3 | Rowdy | 116332 | ||
Thanks, you make a good point. I do think we can be assured we do in fact definitely have the whole Word of God. We may not be certain as to the details of how It got here but I'm convinced God has sanctified and protected His Word over the centuries. God bless. |
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580 | Please clarify: Word vs. word | Luke 1:3 | Rowdy | 116337 | ||
I'm not really clear on this topic of the word vs. the Word. Could you define each one for me? Thanks and God bless. | ||||||
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