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1 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185987 | ||
Hi again Mark. I should have included in my last post that election is according to foreknowledge. Rom 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Edwin. |
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2 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 186095 | ||
Hi Edwin, I appreciate your notes, and I don't mean to sound contrary . . . Doesn't Romans 8:29 actually say that pre-destination, not election, is according to foreknowledge? And not predestination to salvation, but rather predestination to being conformed to the image of Jesus? Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 186130 | ||
Hi Mark Paul may not say so, but Peter does 1Pe 1:2 elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Edwin. |
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4 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 186138 | ||
Hi Edwin, This is a very interesting passage you've brought up. There is a bit of disagreement between translations on this one. The word "elect" is actually grammatically joined with "sojourners" in the previous verse which is where it also appears in actual word order: 1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the choice sojourners of the dispersion of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, (YLT) The grammatical construction is: Peter apostle (Nominative subject of the sentence) of Jesus Christ (Genitive Noun - describes Peter's apostleship) to the chosen (adjective - describes Diaspora) expatriates (adjective - describes diaspora) of the Diaspora (genitive noun - describes Peter's apostleship) The place names are the same as Diaspora. This could be paraphrased as: Peter, the one sent by Jesus Christ to the chosen expatriates of the Dispersion, of Pontus, of Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, Bithynia, according to God's foreknowledge. . . There isn't a way grammatically to determine if this is saying Peter was sent according to foreknowledge, or if the expatriates were chosen according to foreknowledge. I don't think this is actually an outright statement that we are elect according to foreknowledge, although it certainly could be. Love in Christ, Mark |
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